Correct, when we have a Constitutional republican form of government again We must earn that. We have not had it since 1861. It might take some work to return to original jurisdiction.
💯% True. With so much attention lately going towards world of legal drugs be they therapeutic, prophylactic or biologic, it’s easy to forget that that our crowded prisons would be far less so if there wasn’t such a huge mixture of greed and insanity behind the business and law enforcement of illegal substances. But right now few people are aware that there is a huge push to schedule another medicinal herb as a dangerous controlled substance. The plant I’m referring to is kratom, the leaves of a tree native to the jungles of Southeast Asia whose growing popularity is driving the Pharma cartel and their henchmen in the FDA crazy.
I first learned about and tried kratom (currently legal in 44 states and most US cities and counties) in 2016 after battling intermittent depression for a few years and getting no relief from antidepressants. Kratom, part of the coffee family but different containing no caffeine, has been used throughout the region where it’s found for centuries to reduce pain, anxiety, depression and even the cravings for opiates. Many addicts have found it to be an effective and safe way to ween off heroin or other far more dangerous things. And when taking a smaller dose, it serves as a nice pick me up without the jolt of a double shot of espresso. For me it stabilized my mood and I’ve been having it every day for the past 7-8 years. Some people take capsules; some make tea out it while I mix it in grapefruit juice. Anything to mask the bitter unpleasant taste.
The reason I’m even replying about it on your post is due to the war the FDA is waging against those of us who consume it and also those who grow it, import it and distribute it. Literally two weeks after I first made this incredible discovery I learned that the DEA was about to make it a schedule 1 dangerous drug. Per the recommendation from the FDA they were about to make emergency precautions apparently based on reports that people were dying or becoming hopelessly addicted to it. They even were saying that it was just as dangerous as heroin and must be stopped. I was shocked since my experience was that there was nothing to this claim. I didn’t get high like pot from it or have any cravings whatsoever. Luckily there is a very active advocacy group, the American Kratom Association which wasn’t going to let this happen lying down. Kratom while hardly known to most people is a life saver to the ones it helps. And the DEA already overwhelmed and understaffed was willing to listen and gave in to the AKA request to allow a period for public comments before it made its final decision. So in the final months of 2016, over 24 thousand people sent in messages with over 99% being positive pleading with the Feds to keep it legal unless the ban can be deemed necessary. So for the first time in its history the DEA backed off of a proposed scheduling and placed the burden on the FDA to show them some real evidence of its dangers. Since most of the 100 or so deaths that have been reported world wide over several years were due to adulterated products or a toxicology report showing a presence of kratom along with far more deadly substances, the chances of a federal ban are at this time slim.
But the FDA and their bosses at Big Pharma hate anything that affects their bottom line and refused to leave this harmless plant alone. In 2017 when Scott Gottlieb was appointed FDA head he started a propaganda campaign about Kratom warning state and local governments about how this was herbal morphine and must be stopped. So the AKA has built up an army of volunteers who attend the meetings and hearings over and over informing those making the final decisions that they are once again being misinformed. I’ve personally testified before and written numerous letters and signed petitions. You’d think people would learn the lessons but as long as people remain ignorant and believe greedy liars, the truth must continue marching in.
I got an email that wanted Constitutional evidence that what our Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly was doing was on solid ground. I sent this and it was accepted and appreciated with a thank you.
Hello Ammon,
It is any one and also the aggregate
ARTICLE I Section
"Natural rights inherent in people. We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. —" of Oregon's Constitution circa 1859, OSJA completed this June 2018. Along with Grand Jury and Trail Jury pool with 6 Grand Juries; 5 trial juries; Civilian Court of record Article III Amendment VII; the provisional Government on Oregon and Oregon's 2nd Amendment well regulated militia and Oregon Marshal Robert Graves. completed November 2022.
Bill of Rights The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859 Amendment I
Article IV Section 1 Full faith and credit...The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859
Article IV Section 2 The Citizens of each state... The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859
Article IV Section 4 The United States shall guarantee... The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859
We have also merged with Oregon's Assembly which was previously affiliated with AVR.
our bona fides are found at www.orsja.org with full faith and credit yours are found there also. You cannot be deprived of anything we lawfully have.
Please consider there exist now and he is accepted, face to face, by the USMS, USDOJ and several sheriffs an Oregon Marshal Robert Graves and there is a 2nd amendment well regulated militia on Oregon and he, they, we are a lawful and legal fact. It takes a lawful progression, step by step. I think Shaffer (sp) Cox was imprisoned and Billy Faust murdered on Arizona because the didn't have their paperwork correct. The Colorado Nine and Randy Dew; Thomas Deegan and Anthony Williams all for the same reason. Their status, standing, law form, jurisdiction and venue were not properly declared witnessed and recorded. What took us 5 years can be accomplished on paper in 30 days. A lawful provisional de jure government with an Article III Amendment VII Civilian Court of record functioning and in place.
You do not need to be involve just 5 or 6 men and women on the land and soil with all their and your bona fides in place.
Please read thru these definitions:
On Oregon at this time de facto governance is coming from the Salem, oligarchy aka State of Oregon aka STATE OF OREGON Inc as a subdivision of the United States of Washington District of Columbia Inc. In some form of de facto since March 1861. Not an Article IV Section 4 a de jure Constitutional republican form of government. This holds true for the other 32 states and 17 territories.
In just that small paragraph I need to place three definitions here. United States is located at Washington District of Columbia. De facto and de jure Black’s Law 6th edition page 416; then sovereign as defined in Bouvier 1856.
CONUSANCE, CLAIM OF, English law. This is defined to be an intervention by a third person, demanding judicature in the cause against the plaintiff, who has chosen to commence his action out of claimant's court. 2 Wilson's R. 409.
2. It is a question of jurisdiction between the two courts Fortesc. R. 157; 5 Vin. Abr. 588; and not between the plaintiff and defendant, as in the case of plea to the jurisdiction, and therefore it must be demanded by the party entitled to conusance, or by his representative, and not by the defendant or his attorney. Id. ibid. A plea to the jurisdiction must be pleaded in person, but a claim of conusance may be made by attorney. 1 Chit. Pl. 403.
3. There are three sorts of conusance.
Tentere placita, which does not oust another court of its jurisdiction, but only creates a concurrent one.
Cognitio placitorum, when the plea is commenced in one court, of which conusance belongs to another.
A conusance of exclusive jurisdiction; as that no other court shall hold pica, &c. Hard. 509 Bac. Ab. Courts,
A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.
You cannot do it alone, assemble and form a social compact, no one can do that for you. However in a representative provisional government others can do the work.
Jural -The principles of natural and positive rights recognized by law.
Jural pertains to the rights and obligations sanctioned and governed by positive law or that law which is enacted by proper authority. Jural doctrines are founded upon fundamental rules and protect essential rights and duties.
Jural principles are not the same as moral principles. Moral doctrines encompass the entire range of ethics or the science of behavior. Jural doctrines include only those areas of moral conduct that are recognized by law.
Jural denotes the state or an organized political society. Nay assembly.
West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
jural - of or relating to law or to the administration of justice.
We returned Oregon to a de jure Constitutional republican form of government last year 2022
There really is an active conspiracy, the industrial/military/judicial/legislative/executive/banker/ BAR/royalist/nazi/communist/muslim/catholic/jesuit/Khazarian/UN/Big Pharma/medical conspiracy complex. Minus the Georgia Guidestones.
Sincerely the old, white, man , talking head for the
Seek your Constitutional republican form of government on your state or territory this year 2023
By: ron vrooman writing for the Beaverton Oversight Committee , Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly and it's Civilian Court of Record, Grand Jury, 2nd Amendment Militia.
I have been checking your site out. There is one major issue that I see...NO TEETH. We can claim what we want but until there is an organized ARMED effort to stand up for your rights, they will just run over you like the tank drivers in Tiananmen Square and during the Bonus Marchers uprising in the US which was OUR Tiananmen Square. It was also the impetus of the 1934 NFA which is an obvious direct violation of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
All we can do is RESIST and resisting means using VIOLENCE against the control freaks. If they try to FORCE US to take a shot, we shoot them. PERIOD. What price liberty? DEATH to those who violate our UNALIENABLE rights. Mortem ad tyrannis = DEATH TO TYRANNY.
That is a Pussycat mind set. Think about freedom. Not to write about but to actually take it upon yourself. Just the thinking part for now. To be free is a mind set. We must all do it ourselves. Mindset. No one can do it for you. You cannot do it alone. So now you must inculcate that into your being. Read this part again.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
(1) dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and
(2) to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should
(3) declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Now how do you plan to do that??? We figured it out and did it.
Now read this. "Natural rights inherent in people. We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. —" That is ARTICLE I Section 1 of Oregon's Constitution. We figured it out and did it.
Have you seen a need for enforcement ? Not yet.
Now, how do you clear Lieber code and martial law from your state, commonwealth or territory. Read up on ex parte Milligan and what it does. We did and implemented Our Civilian Court of record.
Constitutionally the only Court where a man or woman with our progeny fin find "remedy" not justice in in Article III. Better read that again. The figure out where an Article III one supreme Court that will claim original jurisdiction. Better read about that.
I searched for that Court for 18 months. I'll tell you it is found in Amendment VII. Read Mookinr 303, congress hid their Article III court. And still you do not need enforcement as you have nothing to enforce. To do that you need a Grand Jury and that takes a jury pool. Which took us another 18 months. Then we got it almost over night. Now go back to #3. declare the cause. And without rebuttal We had to notify lawfully as we were a Civilian Court of record and all of "us" are Declared free men and women and so forth. Pages of documents to the USDOJ, FBI, USMS, USMC, State of Oregon aka STATE OF OREGON executive, legislative, judiciary, 36 sheriff, 38 prosecutors. Signed, sealed, stamped, witnesses, proof of service, published. with 6 Grand Juries, 5 Article III Amendment VII trials.
You must do it yourself, no one can do it for you, you cannot do it alone. Still mindset. No need for enforcement yet.
Now comes some more thinking. Read the bell curve again.. It all plots on the bell curve. 62.5% will not say the truth to the de facto. Yes sir; no sir ! 3 bags full Sir. on the left, 12 to 15% are too stupid to qualify to join the military. 16.25% on the right are smart enough to figure it out but will not take action; 3 to 5% on the left control the stupid et al. evil and those that acquiesce to evil ; On the right 3 to 5% of us will return all of us to a Constitutional republican form of government this year 2024. A solution that works is published at www.orsja.org. Very few will go Athens, Tennessee 1946. The de facto yields to the de jure when the fraud of deception is clear. The occupant of the office will take a proper oath to the de jure Constitutions with God included no exceptions. So, that means the Sheriffs and those that come after to take our provisional government to a Constitutional republican form of government. They need a proper oath to the de jure Constitutions with god included.
Very few people with go to Athens, Tennessee 1946. However, we are not at that point yet.
We have an Oregon Marshal and a Deputy and he is recognized by the USDOJ, USMS, and several Sheriff. No, enforcement needed yet and we have been at this 5 years and 7 months. You haven't even started yet. so, politely I say STFU and do some work. It takes 5 men and women to start. We will help and the paperwork will be done in 30 days. ( without a proof read but close enough for a Pussycat.)
The Fourth Amendment violations alone are enough to stop it.
Correct, when we have a Constitutional republican form of government again We must earn that. We have not had it since 1861. It might take some work to return to original jurisdiction.
We found a solution www.orsja.org
💯% True. With so much attention lately going towards world of legal drugs be they therapeutic, prophylactic or biologic, it’s easy to forget that that our crowded prisons would be far less so if there wasn’t such a huge mixture of greed and insanity behind the business and law enforcement of illegal substances. But right now few people are aware that there is a huge push to schedule another medicinal herb as a dangerous controlled substance. The plant I’m referring to is kratom, the leaves of a tree native to the jungles of Southeast Asia whose growing popularity is driving the Pharma cartel and their henchmen in the FDA crazy.
I first learned about and tried kratom (currently legal in 44 states and most US cities and counties) in 2016 after battling intermittent depression for a few years and getting no relief from antidepressants. Kratom, part of the coffee family but different containing no caffeine, has been used throughout the region where it’s found for centuries to reduce pain, anxiety, depression and even the cravings for opiates. Many addicts have found it to be an effective and safe way to ween off heroin or other far more dangerous things. And when taking a smaller dose, it serves as a nice pick me up without the jolt of a double shot of espresso. For me it stabilized my mood and I’ve been having it every day for the past 7-8 years. Some people take capsules; some make tea out it while I mix it in grapefruit juice. Anything to mask the bitter unpleasant taste.
The reason I’m even replying about it on your post is due to the war the FDA is waging against those of us who consume it and also those who grow it, import it and distribute it. Literally two weeks after I first made this incredible discovery I learned that the DEA was about to make it a schedule 1 dangerous drug. Per the recommendation from the FDA they were about to make emergency precautions apparently based on reports that people were dying or becoming hopelessly addicted to it. They even were saying that it was just as dangerous as heroin and must be stopped. I was shocked since my experience was that there was nothing to this claim. I didn’t get high like pot from it or have any cravings whatsoever. Luckily there is a very active advocacy group, the American Kratom Association which wasn’t going to let this happen lying down. Kratom while hardly known to most people is a life saver to the ones it helps. And the DEA already overwhelmed and understaffed was willing to listen and gave in to the AKA request to allow a period for public comments before it made its final decision. So in the final months of 2016, over 24 thousand people sent in messages with over 99% being positive pleading with the Feds to keep it legal unless the ban can be deemed necessary. So for the first time in its history the DEA backed off of a proposed scheduling and placed the burden on the FDA to show them some real evidence of its dangers. Since most of the 100 or so deaths that have been reported world wide over several years were due to adulterated products or a toxicology report showing a presence of kratom along with far more deadly substances, the chances of a federal ban are at this time slim.
But the FDA and their bosses at Big Pharma hate anything that affects their bottom line and refused to leave this harmless plant alone. In 2017 when Scott Gottlieb was appointed FDA head he started a propaganda campaign about Kratom warning state and local governments about how this was herbal morphine and must be stopped. So the AKA has built up an army of volunteers who attend the meetings and hearings over and over informing those making the final decisions that they are once again being misinformed. I’ve personally testified before and written numerous letters and signed petitions. You’d think people would learn the lessons but as long as people remain ignorant and believe greedy liars, the truth must continue marching in.
I got an email that wanted Constitutional evidence that what our Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly was doing was on solid ground. I sent this and it was accepted and appreciated with a thank you.
Hello Ammon,
It is any one and also the aggregate
ARTICLE I Section
"Natural rights inherent in people. We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. —" of Oregon's Constitution circa 1859, OSJA completed this June 2018. Along with Grand Jury and Trail Jury pool with 6 Grand Juries; 5 trial juries; Civilian Court of record Article III Amendment VII; the provisional Government on Oregon and Oregon's 2nd Amendment well regulated militia and Oregon Marshal Robert Graves. completed November 2022.
Bill of Rights The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859 Amendment I
Article IV Section 1 Full faith and credit...The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859
Article IV Section 2 The Citizens of each state... The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859
Article IV Section 4 The United States shall guarantee... The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859
We have also merged with Oregon's Assembly which was previously affiliated with AVR.
our bona fides are found at www.orsja.org with full faith and credit yours are found there also. You cannot be deprived of anything we lawfully have.
All the best of every good fortune for the good.
ron
Hello Ammon,
Please consider there exist now and he is accepted, face to face, by the USMS, USDOJ and several sheriffs an Oregon Marshal Robert Graves and there is a 2nd amendment well regulated militia on Oregon and he, they, we are a lawful and legal fact. It takes a lawful progression, step by step. I think Shaffer (sp) Cox was imprisoned and Billy Faust murdered on Arizona because the didn't have their paperwork correct. The Colorado Nine and Randy Dew; Thomas Deegan and Anthony Williams all for the same reason. Their status, standing, law form, jurisdiction and venue were not properly declared witnessed and recorded. What took us 5 years can be accomplished on paper in 30 days. A lawful provisional de jure government with an Article III Amendment VII Civilian Court of record functioning and in place.
You do not need to be involve just 5 or 6 men and women on the land and soil with all their and your bona fides in place.
Please read thru these definitions:
On Oregon at this time de facto governance is coming from the Salem, oligarchy aka State of Oregon aka STATE OF OREGON Inc as a subdivision of the United States of Washington District of Columbia Inc. In some form of de facto since March 1861. Not an Article IV Section 4 a de jure Constitutional republican form of government. This holds true for the other 32 states and 17 territories.
In just that small paragraph I need to place three definitions here. United States is located at Washington District of Columbia. De facto and de jure Black’s Law 6th edition page 416; then sovereign as defined in Bouvier 1856.
CONUSANCE, CLAIM OF, English law. This is defined to be an intervention by a third person, demanding judicature in the cause against the plaintiff, who has chosen to commence his action out of claimant's court. 2 Wilson's R. 409.
2. It is a question of jurisdiction between the two courts Fortesc. R. 157; 5 Vin. Abr. 588; and not between the plaintiff and defendant, as in the case of plea to the jurisdiction, and therefore it must be demanded by the party entitled to conusance, or by his representative, and not by the defendant or his attorney. Id. ibid. A plea to the jurisdiction must be pleaded in person, but a claim of conusance may be made by attorney. 1 Chit. Pl. 403.
3. There are three sorts of conusance.
Tentere placita, which does not oust another court of its jurisdiction, but only creates a concurrent one.
Cognitio placitorum, when the plea is commenced in one court, of which conusance belongs to another.
A conusance of exclusive jurisdiction; as that no other court shall hold pica, &c. Hard. 509 Bac. Ab. Courts,
A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.
You cannot do it alone, assemble and form a social compact, no one can do that for you. However in a representative provisional government others can do the work.
Jural -The principles of natural and positive rights recognized by law.
Jural pertains to the rights and obligations sanctioned and governed by positive law or that law which is enacted by proper authority. Jural doctrines are founded upon fundamental rules and protect essential rights and duties.
Jural principles are not the same as moral principles. Moral doctrines encompass the entire range of ethics or the science of behavior. Jural doctrines include only those areas of moral conduct that are recognized by law.
Jural denotes the state or an organized political society. Nay assembly.
West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
jural - of or relating to law or to the administration of justice.
Collins Dictionary of Law © W.J. Stewart, 2006
We returned Oregon to a de jure Constitutional republican form of government last year 2022
There really is an active conspiracy, the industrial/military/judicial/legislative/executive/banker/ BAR/royalist/nazi/communist/muslim/catholic/jesuit/Khazarian/UN/Big Pharma/medical conspiracy complex. Minus the Georgia Guidestones.
Sincerely the old, white, man , talking head for the
Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly www.orsja.org
They Lost when they murdered LaVoy.
Seek your Constitutional republican form of government on your state or territory this year 2023
By: ron vrooman writing for the Beaverton Oversight Committee , Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly and it's Civilian Court of Record, Grand Jury, 2nd Amendment Militia.
General Delivery Beaverton, Oregon [97005]
ronvrooman38@gmail.com 503 641 8375
I do lawful not legal and put forth my best effort!!!
Oh, by the way. We have found a solution at www.orsja.org
I have been checking your site out. There is one major issue that I see...NO TEETH. We can claim what we want but until there is an organized ARMED effort to stand up for your rights, they will just run over you like the tank drivers in Tiananmen Square and during the Bonus Marchers uprising in the US which was OUR Tiananmen Square. It was also the impetus of the 1934 NFA which is an obvious direct violation of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
All we can do is RESIST and resisting means using VIOLENCE against the control freaks. If they try to FORCE US to take a shot, we shoot them. PERIOD. What price liberty? DEATH to those who violate our UNALIENABLE rights. Mortem ad tyrannis = DEATH TO TYRANNY.
That is a Pussycat mind set. Think about freedom. Not to write about but to actually take it upon yourself. Just the thinking part for now. To be free is a mind set. We must all do it ourselves. Mindset. No one can do it for you. You cannot do it alone. So now you must inculcate that into your being. Read this part again.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
(1) dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and
(2) to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should
(3) declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Now how do you plan to do that??? We figured it out and did it.
Now read this. "Natural rights inherent in people. We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. —" That is ARTICLE I Section 1 of Oregon's Constitution. We figured it out and did it.
Have you seen a need for enforcement ? Not yet.
Now, how do you clear Lieber code and martial law from your state, commonwealth or territory. Read up on ex parte Milligan and what it does. We did and implemented Our Civilian Court of record.
Constitutionally the only Court where a man or woman with our progeny fin find "remedy" not justice in in Article III. Better read that again. The figure out where an Article III one supreme Court that will claim original jurisdiction. Better read about that.
I searched for that Court for 18 months. I'll tell you it is found in Amendment VII. Read Mookinr 303, congress hid their Article III court. And still you do not need enforcement as you have nothing to enforce. To do that you need a Grand Jury and that takes a jury pool. Which took us another 18 months. Then we got it almost over night. Now go back to #3. declare the cause. And without rebuttal We had to notify lawfully as we were a Civilian Court of record and all of "us" are Declared free men and women and so forth. Pages of documents to the USDOJ, FBI, USMS, USMC, State of Oregon aka STATE OF OREGON executive, legislative, judiciary, 36 sheriff, 38 prosecutors. Signed, sealed, stamped, witnesses, proof of service, published. with 6 Grand Juries, 5 Article III Amendment VII trials.
You must do it yourself, no one can do it for you, you cannot do it alone. Still mindset. No need for enforcement yet.
Now comes some more thinking. Read the bell curve again.. It all plots on the bell curve. 62.5% will not say the truth to the de facto. Yes sir; no sir ! 3 bags full Sir. on the left, 12 to 15% are too stupid to qualify to join the military. 16.25% on the right are smart enough to figure it out but will not take action; 3 to 5% on the left control the stupid et al. evil and those that acquiesce to evil ; On the right 3 to 5% of us will return all of us to a Constitutional republican form of government this year 2024. A solution that works is published at www.orsja.org. Very few will go Athens, Tennessee 1946. The de facto yields to the de jure when the fraud of deception is clear. The occupant of the office will take a proper oath to the de jure Constitutions with God included no exceptions. So, that means the Sheriffs and those that come after to take our provisional government to a Constitutional republican form of government. They need a proper oath to the de jure Constitutions with god included.
Very few people with go to Athens, Tennessee 1946. However, we are not at that point yet.
We have an Oregon Marshal and a Deputy and he is recognized by the USDOJ, USMS, and several Sheriff. No, enforcement needed yet and we have been at this 5 years and 7 months. You haven't even started yet. so, politely I say STFU and do some work. It takes 5 men and women to start. We will help and the paperwork will be done in 30 days. ( without a proof read but close enough for a Pussycat.)
I yield.
Good Job
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