Love the poem, but am wondering how long it will take before white people rise up en masse. Even in Germany, full of rape-happy invaders, vengeful rage seems sorely lacking. Ditto in poor, beleaguered England. Wait too long to act, and the comparative birth rates will take the decision out of your hands.
I see many new births near where I live from white families. Arkansas isn’t going down easily. And the problem I see in many European countries is that for all intents the only armed people are the government and the criminals. Did I just repeat myself? Most if not all “governments” are FILLED with criminals.
I understand that Arkansas is home to magnitudes of former military, especially in the northwest area. Is that a true story? Are folks thereabouts organized enough to fend off a Red Dawn scenario?
I’ve been here for 27 years and I would say no to the first question and no to the second. People everywhere don’t even know there next door neighbors. I tried and found out one is a total jack ass and the other lives in lala land. The one in lala land has a .380 Hi Point. LOL. The other one probably shouldn’t own a gun. He has a real attitude problem. The Arkansas Partiot’s was run by egotistically jerks and fell apart from what I can tell.
White people? What about everyone else? Are we not One Nation? Or several? Or a bunch? We're not all white, are we? Not to pick on you, but it seems a bit odd to say that, to me.
A nation for all intents is ethnocentric. We WERE one nation, but then we let people bring in slave labor turning us into at least TWO nations and now with so many here that have no desire to assimilate we are who the EF knows how many nations. Diversity is NOT a positive system. Try this...go to a college that Asians go to, that blacks, whites and Hispanics attend. Now go to the lunch area during lunch time and make an observation. You will notice that the Asians will sit with the Asians, the Blacks with blacks, the hispanics with Hispanics and the whites, for the most part, with whites. HOWEVER you will also note whites sitting with the other groups trying to be accepted by them. GOOD LUCK! That's reality Jaan. I lived it and saw it. Unless something has drastically changed since then I'm sure it is the same. It IS what IS.
I disagree. That’s not my experience, and I’ve lived with all kinds of mixes and gone to school with a variety, and we MIXED, at least pretty broadly, and not ALL the time, or everywhere, and nobody got their panties in a bunch about it. Maybe it’s not the same everywhere. Besides, people like to be with those who share their cultural identity, and that happens with groups of WHITES of different cultures. I LIKE diversity, always have. I’ve ALWAYS had friends from other backgrounds, and that is something I really LIKE about the US… it’s much more fun that way. Maybe it’s just me. I don’t need everyone to be like me. Anyway, very few ARE like me, apparently.
And I understand that we are products of our environment and the life experiences we have. If you had gone to my high school and junior high you may be thinking a lot differently. If you had lived in south Florida during the McDuffey riots, you might be thinking differently. If you think that diversity, diversity being all these different cultures living among each other that refuse to assimilate with the host culture as being good, well that's your opinion. I disagree. The Muslims want to take over the world and have us all live under their sharia law. Sound good to you? SOMEONE wants us to live under the Noahide laws. Does that sound good to you too? How about good ol fashion SAXON common law where there has to be a victim for a crime to take place? Oh, and when was the last time you went to a college cafeteria to observe what I mentioned? Never?
I really have a hard time with people putting words in my mouth. This page is really on fire that way.
I went to high school in San Antonio, Texas. In a place where white people had stolen half the country of Mexico, the origin of the majority of that city, by a very small margin. We had several military bases there, and so lots of different people, and WE MIXED happily, and also went off in groups of sameness, and it was not a Thing. So, I HAVE SEEN IT, LIVED IT, AND LOVED IT, in my school and in my area, generally. Maybe that's unusual, but it worked.
I find that the energy here is just not worth my time. I find that most people, regardless of what color or background they come from, when they are hostile to "other" they are fearful and prone to hatred of strangers, particularly strangers of some "other-ness."
I don't need such hostility and hate-mongering in my life. So much misinformed, knee-jerking FEAR mongering!!! I've got enough hard-core hatred coming at me than to want to voluntarily visit a page full of it.
I am a PEACE dog, not a hate dog. I'm interested in finding common ground, commonality, not seeking out and focusing on the negative, and certainly not LISTENING TO BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA THAT DIVIDES US.
DIVIDE AND CONQUER. It's what the Globalistas want.
When you find your nirvana, be sure to let me know where it is. I find this conversation with different people about a “taboo” subject to be challenging, not divisive. For some reason you’re taking some of this awfully personal. I didn’t live back when the country was being stolen from someone else, whatever that is. Back then it was conquered. Do you think that the people that live in Mexico didn’t steal it from the Aztecs with your way of thinking? Come now!
adios, Word Herder. Great virtue signaling there. "In a place where white people had stolen half the country of Mexico, ...." We don't mention how the Mexicans got Mexico and Texas. We won't mention how the Spanish did the same.
Yes, white people. What is wrong with that? Why are we the only group that is actively discouraged from developing group cohesion or racial awareness/pride? I am tired of seeing healthy ethnic solidarity among whites smeared as something evil.
That's up to you Jaan. I'm looking at this as something we may not agree upon, but I'm a live and let live sort of guy. I say we should be mature enough to agree to disagree on some issues.
I advocate only for White People, and White ethnostates. No other group, race or creed would be excoriated for that. Ethnostates worldwide, be they Asian, African, Latino, jewish...are allowed. China. Japan. Guatemala. Israel. All allowed. Only once White Nations are being forcibly miscegenated. Why? Who is responsible? Jews are responsible. Israel practices apartheid, as Jews called a wall in the USA racist. Your double standards are obvious and specious. Time for White Solidarity and the expulsions of non White people. Hail Victory.
The Saxon is not a colour, it's an irrepressible attitude of freedom.
I've found most immigrants that now live in the western world, are the ones who fight against control the most, for they have lived in tyranny elsewhere, and have come to our glorious shores to live in freedom and harmony.
Any other definition, is Otto- Germanic, not Saxon.
Thank you for your comment. The ones coming to the USA are from countries that do not like the US. They are unvetted and are committing rape, murder, robbery, burglary and other major crimes by the thousands over here. I say if they are as you describe they come through the FRONT DOOR like my ancestors did rather than the wide open borders thanks to the One World mental cases that want the people who have built this country erased. And if you have a problem with the word Saxon, that’s on you.
This poem is actually called “The Beginnings.” Not “The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon”. My assumption is somewhere along the lines people changed it for their own political purposes.
“Saxon” was never in the original poem. The original used the word “English”. At some point someone took the poem and changed all the “English” to “Saxon” and then the title. Rudyard Kipling did not pen it this way. You can see the original poem here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/13085/13085-h/13085-h.htm#page443
I am quite familiar. Since the “English” are Saxons, the meaning is pretty much the same. Your point is taken. Since 99% of the poem is as he wrote it, would someone properly take his name off of it by changing the word English to Saxon?
I’m not sure, but given how much it frequents the poem and how so many words in our English language have been hijacked and had their meanings completely transformed throughout history to suit a particular agenda, (“gay” to just name an obvious one,) I’d be rather against changing any word in someone’s work. People just need to create a new work using their own words however they like, otherwise they risk misattributing meaning to another author’s work. It’s just a pet peeve of mine is all.
I know people now equate “Saxon” with ALL white people when really Saxon was a specific Germanic population that moved to south England. Does “English” equate to all white people too? Or were there any non-whites that also identified as English? Was Kipling referring to a society, a culture, or a nation, and not specifically a single race? There are finer differences in all three terms.
I get why you are referencing this poem, and I have no disagreements with your perspectives on what is happening today (and has been for some time) with the white race. The hypocrisy is plenty and I remember warnings even 50 years ago that correctional extremes would cause what we see today.
My purpose in bringing this up is more my pet peeve of the hijacking of literary or historical works for political purposes, including our Constitution. YOU did not hijack this poem. You haven’t done anything wrong. It was hijacked many moons ago and most people aren’t aware of the history of it, and I just wanted to make more people aware.
The guy wrote a poem for crying outloud that was originally title “The Beginning” and he used the word ENGLISH instead of Saxon. Why is this a contention? The whole POEM is the same except for the word English being replaced with the word Saxon. I see it as Anglo-Saxon. What do most people define ANGLO as? White. What is an Anglo-Saxon? White. What is a Saxon? White What are the English? White. What are the French, Swedes, Fins, Norwegians, Dutch, French, Italians, Germans, Hungarians….WHITE. So what? I see that over and over these countries are filled with IDIOTS that let others into their countries and pay their way and don’t stop the invaders from robbing, raping and pillaging their people! It’s INSANE. Well EXCEPT for the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and I think one other that have figured it OUT. You sure as hell don’t PAY them to come to your country and take jobs, housing, medical etc away from the current inhabitants and PAY them to come. It’s a WTF moment for anyone with some reason, logic and common sense! I wonder how many Somalians have crashed the gates of Russia. It keeps going the way it is and it will turn UGLY. Set up an M13 gang in MY town and watch what happens.
Joseph of Arimathea the true Apostle of Britain, how much of our history has been kept under wraps, it has been said, the word Saxon stands for Isaac's Sons.
I've always wondered where the Ark of the Covenant will turn up. Maybe someplace like ARKansas in the OzARKS? It is claimed that the world discovered by Columbus really wasn't and that settlers had already made it here from the "old world" way before he did. The Cherokee Indians have a serious Saxon look about them.
I saw a video some time back about how the CHINESE were actually here well before the Spanish, and there's some evidence, I believe, vis a vis cave wall writing... in IRISH, that THEY were here, too, even earlier. Interesting, yeah!
How will it dilute it when they become targets? At least in the US where there are LOTS of armed to the teeth Saxons. I realize the Canada, and GB is pretty much disarmed.
Reminds me of some of the stories that came out of South Africa. The blacks murdered the farmers and stole their land and then could even run the farm equipment and if it broke down they were really in a pickle. So the farming started coming to a halt, and they started starving and guess who came to their aid? The white people from other countries. Maybe they should have just let them starve. Seemed fair to me since I was reading what was going on.
Another 10 years you”ll practically be bred out of existence. Abortion, Covid shots, euthanasia, fentanyl, trans and queer indoctrination in the public schools along with feminism has ensured that for the most part whitey is done.
I guess that possibility exists. Then the powers that be, which are also white, but of a foreign belief system will be the top of the caste system that will arise. And then the lowly masses will find out what the boot of tyranny feels like on their faces.
I said...once the vaccines start killing children all hell will break loose. However, parents can't even stop going to pedo Disney or shopping at Target! I'm not arguing with you at all. I'm just past the point of believing most Americans will lift a finger to do anything. Social Media has totally RUINED 38 and younger! I just keep wondering at what point does everyone who gives a 💩 gets up...doesn't go to work and floods the sides of streets with sign and flyers?! Seriously that's all it would take because just us alone would shut the economy DOWN that day! Don't block highways. That's freaking stupid! Don't loot, burn, etc. Simply call off sick and line street after street! Hospitals would change their tune super fast! But guess what...bleeding heart retards would say...but patients could die?! Like, "No shit Sherlock but you were TOTALLY fine with that BS when it came to rona medical malpractice or vax deaths???!!!" We can't meme this to death or vote it out. Unfortunately.
I understand, but also understand where we'd be if we done this day after the election was stolen! It can only get worse and now they are killing THOUSANDS of cows and chickens for NOTHING! You think $12 steak is high now?! Some times you just have to pitch a bitch fit! It's WAY too expensive to rehire and retrain 40-50% of the workforce so they won't fire you!
ABSOLUTELY! Every where I go help wanted signs! Plant jobs are expensive to hire and retrain! Not like a few days and someone would be able to do the job! I used to be a Refinery Operations Shift Scheduler for over 240 men/women in a plant that runs 24/7-365. NO way someone could remotely do that job efficiently in less than a month! That's with being trained by someone who's efficient! Their jobs took at least 6 weeks for EACH qualification! How about doctors and nurses?! Sure you could bring in a bunch of liberal whackadoodles, but each hospitals has their own way of doing things. Add per diem/travel accommodations aren't cheap either! People seriously just believe these companies are going to fire them and have new workers next day! 🤦♀️ LMAO Hire a bunch of those illegal aliens who don't even know English or properly have a high school diploma! Bet things would change OVER NIGHT!
Universal strike? I like that idea! We’d need to be very stocked up and ready to our-wait the villains. Might work. There’s a part of me that’s totally pitchforks-and-torches though.
There's a BIG part of me that's totally pitchforks and torches. As a matter of fact...In the back ground, the world over, I hear the sound of steel against sharpening stone while pitchforks tines are being sharpened. I feel in my bones that kerosene is being stockpiled everywhere as the torches are being assembled. The symbol of the Bastille is about to be stormed EVERYWHERE that the masses are waking up. The psychopathic control freak PARASITES that are sucking out the lifeblood of the average working man is making it so that they will have nothing left. And what these monsters have not figured out yet is that WHEN YOU OWN NOTHING, YOU WILL NOT BE HAPPY...YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE and when people have NOTHING TO LOSE...THEY LOSE IT! And when they LOSE IT, people that say to the masses..."Let them eat cake" will find their heads on the fg chopping block. Scream it. We the People, the World Over, white man, black man, brown man, yellow man, red man ARE F*****G SICK OF IT. And the BASTILLE is about to be STORMED. After all, FREEDOM is just another word for NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE!
Exhilarating! And yet…doesn’t it seem like violent revolutions always get out of hand, eat their own, and are ultimately betrayed? Robespierre was ultimately out to the guillotine himself.
You damn right it is. We can build anything and everything, truck bombs for the corrupt courthouses for starters, the sky is the limit, the sky is the limit.
Okay, so... Are you saying the answer to Globalization is hate?
Is hatred necessary in order to right wrongs, to overthrow bad organizations or govt's?
Is hatred the key to our survival?
I'm asking because I think it's entirely possible to stop almost ANYTHING, or maybe anything at all, without hatred. Maybe the word we need is more like "determination"? Or "patriotic fervor"? Because hatred hurts ourselves, not the person or group we hate. I don't NEED to HATE them in order to put them in a cell or on an island, or even to give them an injection. I don't have to LOVE them, either, but I can let the judgment be with the Creator, and not me. NOT suggesting we shouldn't be ANGRY! ;)
I think by using different words but having the same outcome is fine, but why not just call it like it is? WE Anglo Saxon and kindred people put up with shit until it's a foot over our heads and then finally...we sure aren't going to stop this with love that's for sure. THEY hate US. What are we supposed to do love them to death? I may not HATE a rat, but I HATE what they do to my home and am willing to eradicate them as quickly as possible for what damage they do. So is our question a matter of semantics or reality? If someone were to kill my child would I have the RIGHT to hate them? Or should I call it determination or child fervor? If I hate a particular group who has been attacking us over and over it is in no way going to damage me in doing so.
Well, you seem to think that Love has ONE very narrow definition. I think LOTS of people have a very black & white view, especially when they feel/are threatened somehow, of things they really don't understand, things or people that are different, or unknown. It's a knee-jerk reaction that comes out of the Fight-or-Flight response, which has to do with Fear. A bug lands on the forearm, slap it dead. A rat gets into the house, kill it. It's all based on FEAR. There are many ways to deal with perceived threats, which can often be handled by simple means of cutting off access, like in the case of rats.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I learned this in school...bullies will ALWAYS continue to be bullies until the day you stop taking it and punch their nose a few times. Funny they...and everyone watching never bothered me again! They have ZERO common sense so that won't resonate with them. God even called for wars in the Bible. Kumbaya doesn't fix everything...unfortunately!
And furthermore, saying something about HATE turns into wanting “Kumbayah,” which actually MEANS, “come by here.” It’s a prayer, actually, for the Lord to “come by here.”
Well when you're a Christian you ALWAYS ask that daily. However, again God called for wars in the Bible and it didn't tell them to go pray them to death. He didn't give David a feather...he gave him a rock and a slingshot!
I don't believe in gods who call for war, and if they exist, I choose not to "follow" them. I don't recall Jesus ever telling people to hate each other, or to beat each other up. Of course, you are free to believe whatever you like, and amazingly enough, I'm just fine with that. I am retreating from this page, as I find it to be extremely hostile here, so thank you for your courtesy, even if we don't see "eye to eye." cheers.
God is Jesus's Father. The point you're missing is...no one wants it to turn to bloodshed, but it may whether WE want it to or not. My question is...if someone breaks into your house with deadly intent do you believe you're not supposed to retaliate? Do you believe Jesus would not expect you to defend yourself? Again, no one in their right mind WANTS to fight, but if you come at me or my family OR our Freedom that is GOD given NOT government given...I'm going to defend us!
What you feel about religion is nothing to do with me, I don't tell people what to believe, and I don't need an explanation of Christianity.
"no one wants it to turn to bloodshed, but it may whether WE want it to or not."
Well, there ya go. Just look at this conversation. No one wanted to beat the shit out of me, but it happened anyway. You proved your own point with your own knee-jerk reactionary jump to conclusions, just like everyone else. What the hell is wrong with people? You're all just POISED to FIGHT. Have you ever considered the possibility that you're being LED BY THE NOSE? That this is the DESIRED behavior, and you're being trained, prodded??
Look at yourselves! FFS
Is it SO DIFFICULT to allow someone to explain what they mean? But nooooooo, you all jumped to conclusions that were NEVER on the table!! EVERY SINGLE THING that I was accused of saying, I never said.
Unbelievable. And you're ANGRY at me for ... not ever saying any of what you've all accused me of!
You're TOOLS, folks. Welcome to training camp, courtesy of the Globalist Agenda.
It doesn't MATTER what I say, you're all like trained rats, ready to instantly dispute whatever, doesn't even matter what is said, it's all about what you want to THINK is said.
Pretty LAME. But do I HATE you all? Uh, no. I'm just disgusted.
Now I'm done with you folks. I don't see anything changing. You just keep trying to WIN the argument. Thing is, there never was an argument, you all just yelled at me without having one little clue about what I was talking about. You say you have no way to control the outcome-- talk about handing over your power!!! And you think that's courage??????
To repeat myself, we are not supposed to hate the sinner—we are all fallen sinners. We are supposed to hate the sin. So it would be wrong to hate a murderer but right to hate murder. The murderer can repent and be saved, but murder is an evil *action*; it lacks the logical capacity for repentance or salvation. God is perfect love and also perfect justice; evil must be rejected absolutely. Do you disagree?
Yes, I disagree. I think that ALL revealed religions are a detriment to human non violent interaction. Everyone one wants to be right in the debate. I never, in all of my years of reading the bible came to the conclusion we are supposed to hate the sin and not the sinner. MURDER is not something I could forgive and certainly I would hate the murderer if they had murdered one of my friends of family. So much so that I would have no problem with putting a bullet in their face and sleep well that night. And what do you do with verses like this? Isiah 45vs7...how do YOU "interpret" this? “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” I want you to know that I'm no bible illiterate. But I AM a denominational illiterate because ALL of them think they are right and that the rest are wrong.
Where did I say you have to LOVE a bully? Why is that people are so quick to jump to the exact opposite of what is said? That is not really thinking, it’s knee-jerking.
We are commanded to hate the sin but not the sinner. God himself is the epitome of love but He hates evil and sin. It is appropriate to feel righteous anger in defense of what we love.
This is a strange perception... A God that is the "epitome of love" but "hates" evil and sin. That makes no sense. I think you are not really thinking that through. And FYI, anger and hate are not synonyms, they are two different things.
I have spent months being catechized in Catholic teachings. This is the view of the church, however strange it may seem to you. Are you Christian? Familiar with the New Testament? Many secularists have a very watered down view of Christianity that is not accurate.
There are seven things that God hates. One if those is hands that shed innocent blood. God hates evil and sin because evil and sin nailed His Son to a cross.
Love the poem, but am wondering how long it will take before white people rise up en masse. Even in Germany, full of rape-happy invaders, vengeful rage seems sorely lacking. Ditto in poor, beleaguered England. Wait too long to act, and the comparative birth rates will take the decision out of your hands.
I see many new births near where I live from white families. Arkansas isn’t going down easily. And the problem I see in many European countries is that for all intents the only armed people are the government and the criminals. Did I just repeat myself? Most if not all “governments” are FILLED with criminals.
I understand that Arkansas is home to magnitudes of former military, especially in the northwest area. Is that a true story? Are folks thereabouts organized enough to fend off a Red Dawn scenario?
That's where I would like to situate myself!
I’ve been here for 27 years and I would say no to the first question and no to the second. People everywhere don’t even know there next door neighbors. I tried and found out one is a total jack ass and the other lives in lala land. The one in lala land has a .380 Hi Point. LOL. The other one probably shouldn’t own a gun. He has a real attitude problem. The Arkansas Partiot’s was run by egotistically jerks and fell apart from what I can tell.
Oh wow 😮
White people? What about everyone else? Are we not One Nation? Or several? Or a bunch? We're not all white, are we? Not to pick on you, but it seems a bit odd to say that, to me.
A nation for all intents is ethnocentric. We WERE one nation, but then we let people bring in slave labor turning us into at least TWO nations and now with so many here that have no desire to assimilate we are who the EF knows how many nations. Diversity is NOT a positive system. Try this...go to a college that Asians go to, that blacks, whites and Hispanics attend. Now go to the lunch area during lunch time and make an observation. You will notice that the Asians will sit with the Asians, the Blacks with blacks, the hispanics with Hispanics and the whites, for the most part, with whites. HOWEVER you will also note whites sitting with the other groups trying to be accepted by them. GOOD LUCK! That's reality Jaan. I lived it and saw it. Unless something has drastically changed since then I'm sure it is the same. It IS what IS.
I disagree. That’s not my experience, and I’ve lived with all kinds of mixes and gone to school with a variety, and we MIXED, at least pretty broadly, and not ALL the time, or everywhere, and nobody got their panties in a bunch about it. Maybe it’s not the same everywhere. Besides, people like to be with those who share their cultural identity, and that happens with groups of WHITES of different cultures. I LIKE diversity, always have. I’ve ALWAYS had friends from other backgrounds, and that is something I really LIKE about the US… it’s much more fun that way. Maybe it’s just me. I don’t need everyone to be like me. Anyway, very few ARE like me, apparently.
And I understand that we are products of our environment and the life experiences we have. If you had gone to my high school and junior high you may be thinking a lot differently. If you had lived in south Florida during the McDuffey riots, you might be thinking differently. If you think that diversity, diversity being all these different cultures living among each other that refuse to assimilate with the host culture as being good, well that's your opinion. I disagree. The Muslims want to take over the world and have us all live under their sharia law. Sound good to you? SOMEONE wants us to live under the Noahide laws. Does that sound good to you too? How about good ol fashion SAXON common law where there has to be a victim for a crime to take place? Oh, and when was the last time you went to a college cafeteria to observe what I mentioned? Never?
I really have a hard time with people putting words in my mouth. This page is really on fire that way.
I went to high school in San Antonio, Texas. In a place where white people had stolen half the country of Mexico, the origin of the majority of that city, by a very small margin. We had several military bases there, and so lots of different people, and WE MIXED happily, and also went off in groups of sameness, and it was not a Thing. So, I HAVE SEEN IT, LIVED IT, AND LOVED IT, in my school and in my area, generally. Maybe that's unusual, but it worked.
I find that the energy here is just not worth my time. I find that most people, regardless of what color or background they come from, when they are hostile to "other" they are fearful and prone to hatred of strangers, particularly strangers of some "other-ness."
I don't need such hostility and hate-mongering in my life. So much misinformed, knee-jerking FEAR mongering!!! I've got enough hard-core hatred coming at me than to want to voluntarily visit a page full of it.
I am a PEACE dog, not a hate dog. I'm interested in finding common ground, commonality, not seeking out and focusing on the negative, and certainly not LISTENING TO BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA THAT DIVIDES US.
DIVIDE AND CONQUER. It's what the Globalistas want.
Seems this is a good spot for watching them win.
Bye, Mark. Too bad, but, bye. I wish you well.
When you find your nirvana, be sure to let me know where it is. I find this conversation with different people about a “taboo” subject to be challenging, not divisive. For some reason you’re taking some of this awfully personal. I didn’t live back when the country was being stolen from someone else, whatever that is. Back then it was conquered. Do you think that the people that live in Mexico didn’t steal it from the Aztecs with your way of thinking? Come now!
Sound like an angry dog to me.
adios, Word Herder. Great virtue signaling there. "In a place where white people had stolen half the country of Mexico, ...." We don't mention how the Mexicans got Mexico and Texas. We won't mention how the Spanish did the same.
Wow 😮 WTH was that about ? Yikes
Very well said.
Yes, white people. What is wrong with that? Why are we the only group that is actively discouraged from developing group cohesion or racial awareness/pride? I am tired of seeing healthy ethnic solidarity among whites smeared as something evil.
Excuse me??? Where did I say solidarity among whites is something evil???
I've never seen ONE page with so many knee-jerkings on it in one day.
LOL! Go to Francis Leaders page if you want to see more knee jerkings.
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So much for friendship, eh.
That's up to you Jaan. I'm looking at this as something we may not agree upon, but I'm a live and let live sort of guy. I say we should be mature enough to agree to disagree on some issues.
I advocate only for White People, and White ethnostates. No other group, race or creed would be excoriated for that. Ethnostates worldwide, be they Asian, African, Latino, jewish...are allowed. China. Japan. Guatemala. Israel. All allowed. Only once White Nations are being forcibly miscegenated. Why? Who is responsible? Jews are responsible. Israel practices apartheid, as Jews called a wall in the USA racist. Your double standards are obvious and specious. Time for White Solidarity and the expulsions of non White people. Hail Victory.
The Saxon is not a colour, it's an irrepressible attitude of freedom.
I've found most immigrants that now live in the western world, are the ones who fight against control the most, for they have lived in tyranny elsewhere, and have come to our glorious shores to live in freedom and harmony.
Any other definition, is Otto- Germanic, not Saxon.
Thank you for your comment. The ones coming to the USA are from countries that do not like the US. They are unvetted and are committing rape, murder, robbery, burglary and other major crimes by the thousands over here. I say if they are as you describe they come through the FRONT DOOR like my ancestors did rather than the wide open borders thanks to the One World mental cases that want the people who have built this country erased. And if you have a problem with the word Saxon, that’s on you.
PS…it is typically Anglo-Saxon, not just the word Saxon by itself.
Yesssss!
This poem is actually called “The Beginnings.” Not “The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon”. My assumption is somewhere along the lines people changed it for their own political purposes.
“Saxon” was never in the original poem. The original used the word “English”. At some point someone took the poem and changed all the “English” to “Saxon” and then the title. Rudyard Kipling did not pen it this way. You can see the original poem here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/13085/13085-h/13085-h.htm#page443
I am quite familiar. Since the “English” are Saxons, the meaning is pretty much the same. Your point is taken. Since 99% of the poem is as he wrote it, would someone properly take his name off of it by changing the word English to Saxon?
I’m not sure, but given how much it frequents the poem and how so many words in our English language have been hijacked and had their meanings completely transformed throughout history to suit a particular agenda, (“gay” to just name an obvious one,) I’d be rather against changing any word in someone’s work. People just need to create a new work using their own words however they like, otherwise they risk misattributing meaning to another author’s work. It’s just a pet peeve of mine is all.
I know people now equate “Saxon” with ALL white people when really Saxon was a specific Germanic population that moved to south England. Does “English” equate to all white people too? Or were there any non-whites that also identified as English? Was Kipling referring to a society, a culture, or a nation, and not specifically a single race? There are finer differences in all three terms.
I get why you are referencing this poem, and I have no disagreements with your perspectives on what is happening today (and has been for some time) with the white race. The hypocrisy is plenty and I remember warnings even 50 years ago that correctional extremes would cause what we see today.
My purpose in bringing this up is more my pet peeve of the hijacking of literary or historical works for political purposes, including our Constitution. YOU did not hijack this poem. You haven’t done anything wrong. It was hijacked many moons ago and most people aren’t aware of the history of it, and I just wanted to make more people aware.
The guy wrote a poem for crying outloud that was originally title “The Beginning” and he used the word ENGLISH instead of Saxon. Why is this a contention? The whole POEM is the same except for the word English being replaced with the word Saxon. I see it as Anglo-Saxon. What do most people define ANGLO as? White. What is an Anglo-Saxon? White. What is a Saxon? White What are the English? White. What are the French, Swedes, Fins, Norwegians, Dutch, French, Italians, Germans, Hungarians….WHITE. So what? I see that over and over these countries are filled with IDIOTS that let others into their countries and pay their way and don’t stop the invaders from robbing, raping and pillaging their people! It’s INSANE. Well EXCEPT for the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and I think one other that have figured it OUT. You sure as hell don’t PAY them to come to your country and take jobs, housing, medical etc away from the current inhabitants and PAY them to come. It’s a WTF moment for anyone with some reason, logic and common sense! I wonder how many Somalians have crashed the gates of Russia. It keeps going the way it is and it will turn UGLY. Set up an M13 gang in MY town and watch what happens.
May God give us the wisdom and strength to deal with what these demons are forcing upon us.
Joseph of Arimathea the true Apostle of Britain, how much of our history has been kept under wraps, it has been said, the word Saxon stands for Isaac's Sons.
I've always wondered where the Ark of the Covenant will turn up. Maybe someplace like ARKansas in the OzARKS? It is claimed that the world discovered by Columbus really wasn't and that settlers had already made it here from the "old world" way before he did. The Cherokee Indians have a serious Saxon look about them.
I saw a video some time back about how the CHINESE were actually here well before the Spanish, and there's some evidence, I believe, vis a vis cave wall writing... in IRISH, that THEY were here, too, even earlier. Interesting, yeah!
Who knows.
Don’t think it’s useless, we will never know for sure ! in readings I’ve read long ago some people were used as slave labor , to build
LOTS of people, from what I've read. In many places.
How about right NOW? Don't you think that someone stealing the fruits of your labor from you isn't a form of slavery?
The interview given by Admiral Byrd on his exploration of the South Pole is fascinating.
I would like to see that. Perhaps you can supply a link or just tell where it is from and I'll find it. Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxYr7VzB5EY
thank you for this. It is much appreciated. I realize I could have tried youtube but for some reason I thought it might have censored or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9chz8COYVc
That’s why Canada, America and GB is being flooded with migrants to dilute the effects of it.
How will it dilute it when they become targets? At least in the US where there are LOTS of armed to the teeth Saxons. I realize the Canada, and GB is pretty much disarmed.
Oh Soros will arm the immigrants that already hate us and feel entitled...if he hasn't already!
Reminds me of some of the stories that came out of South Africa. The blacks murdered the farmers and stole their land and then could even run the farm equipment and if it broke down they were really in a pickle. So the farming started coming to a halt, and they started starving and guess who came to their aid? The white people from other countries. Maybe they should have just let them starve. Seemed fair to me since I was reading what was going on.
100%! Like the bs WE owe reparations to people who have NEVER been a slave when it was WHITES fighting for their dagum freedom! 🤦♀️
Let that become know as a fact and watch what will happen REALLY FAST.
Another 10 years you”ll practically be bred out of existence. Abortion, Covid shots, euthanasia, fentanyl, trans and queer indoctrination in the public schools along with feminism has ensured that for the most part whitey is done.
I guess that possibility exists. Then the powers that be, which are also white, but of a foreign belief system will be the top of the caste system that will arise. And then the lowly masses will find out what the boot of tyranny feels like on their faces.
How did they hunt for food then ? No weapons =starvation , hunting was survival people
Yes!!
It is probably going to come to that.
Our enemies refuse to stop trying to crush, silence, and destroy us, so they leave us no choice.
Multiple generations are seething with rage, and that energy will boil over soon.
I said...once the vaccines start killing children all hell will break loose. However, parents can't even stop going to pedo Disney or shopping at Target! I'm not arguing with you at all. I'm just past the point of believing most Americans will lift a finger to do anything. Social Media has totally RUINED 38 and younger! I just keep wondering at what point does everyone who gives a 💩 gets up...doesn't go to work and floods the sides of streets with sign and flyers?! Seriously that's all it would take because just us alone would shut the economy DOWN that day! Don't block highways. That's freaking stupid! Don't loot, burn, etc. Simply call off sick and line street after street! Hospitals would change their tune super fast! But guess what...bleeding heart retards would say...but patients could die?! Like, "No shit Sherlock but you were TOTALLY fine with that BS when it came to rona medical malpractice or vax deaths???!!!" We can't meme this to death or vote it out. Unfortunately.
I like the idea, but so many Americans live paycheck to paycheck that they would be put in a real bind by doing a week long shut down.
I understand, but also understand where we'd be if we done this day after the election was stolen! It can only get worse and now they are killing THOUSANDS of cows and chickens for NOTHING! You think $12 steak is high now?! Some times you just have to pitch a bitch fit! It's WAY too expensive to rehire and retrain 40-50% of the workforce so they won't fire you!
Especially when you can't get the people that would be left to hire don't actually do much work.
ABSOLUTELY! Every where I go help wanted signs! Plant jobs are expensive to hire and retrain! Not like a few days and someone would be able to do the job! I used to be a Refinery Operations Shift Scheduler for over 240 men/women in a plant that runs 24/7-365. NO way someone could remotely do that job efficiently in less than a month! That's with being trained by someone who's efficient! Their jobs took at least 6 weeks for EACH qualification! How about doctors and nurses?! Sure you could bring in a bunch of liberal whackadoodles, but each hospitals has their own way of doing things. Add per diem/travel accommodations aren't cheap either! People seriously just believe these companies are going to fire them and have new workers next day! 🤦♀️ LMAO Hire a bunch of those illegal aliens who don't even know English or properly have a high school diploma! Bet things would change OVER NIGHT!
Universal strike? I like that idea! We’d need to be very stocked up and ready to our-wait the villains. Might work. There’s a part of me that’s totally pitchforks-and-torches though.
There's a BIG part of me that's totally pitchforks and torches. As a matter of fact...In the back ground, the world over, I hear the sound of steel against sharpening stone while pitchforks tines are being sharpened. I feel in my bones that kerosene is being stockpiled everywhere as the torches are being assembled. The symbol of the Bastille is about to be stormed EVERYWHERE that the masses are waking up. The psychopathic control freak PARASITES that are sucking out the lifeblood of the average working man is making it so that they will have nothing left. And what these monsters have not figured out yet is that WHEN YOU OWN NOTHING, YOU WILL NOT BE HAPPY...YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE and when people have NOTHING TO LOSE...THEY LOSE IT! And when they LOSE IT, people that say to the masses..."Let them eat cake" will find their heads on the fg chopping block. Scream it. We the People, the World Over, white man, black man, brown man, yellow man, red man ARE F*****G SICK OF IT. And the BASTILLE is about to be STORMED. After all, FREEDOM is just another word for NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE!
Exhilarating! And yet…doesn’t it seem like violent revolutions always get out of hand, eat their own, and are ultimately betrayed? Robespierre was ultimately out to the guillotine himself.
Agreed. We can try nice at first. I'm sick of taking 2 steps forward to take 7 back while NOTHING is getting cheaper!
Speaking of which, did you see where FJB! is no longer allowing imports of Russian oil? He's driving the price of gas higher.
🙄😡 I know between now and November it'll be 💩 show straight out of h e double hockey sticks! 👹
You damn right it is. We can build anything and everything, truck bombs for the corrupt courthouses for starters, the sky is the limit, the sky is the limit.
Okay, so... Are you saying the answer to Globalization is hate?
Is hatred necessary in order to right wrongs, to overthrow bad organizations or govt's?
Is hatred the key to our survival?
I'm asking because I think it's entirely possible to stop almost ANYTHING, or maybe anything at all, without hatred. Maybe the word we need is more like "determination"? Or "patriotic fervor"? Because hatred hurts ourselves, not the person or group we hate. I don't NEED to HATE them in order to put them in a cell or on an island, or even to give them an injection. I don't have to LOVE them, either, but I can let the judgment be with the Creator, and not me. NOT suggesting we shouldn't be ANGRY! ;)
I think by using different words but having the same outcome is fine, but why not just call it like it is? WE Anglo Saxon and kindred people put up with shit until it's a foot over our heads and then finally...we sure aren't going to stop this with love that's for sure. THEY hate US. What are we supposed to do love them to death? I may not HATE a rat, but I HATE what they do to my home and am willing to eradicate them as quickly as possible for what damage they do. So is our question a matter of semantics or reality? If someone were to kill my child would I have the RIGHT to hate them? Or should I call it determination or child fervor? If I hate a particular group who has been attacking us over and over it is in no way going to damage me in doing so.
Well, you seem to think that Love has ONE very narrow definition. I think LOTS of people have a very black & white view, especially when they feel/are threatened somehow, of things they really don't understand, things or people that are different, or unknown. It's a knee-jerk reaction that comes out of the Fight-or-Flight response, which has to do with Fear. A bug lands on the forearm, slap it dead. A rat gets into the house, kill it. It's all based on FEAR. There are many ways to deal with perceived threats, which can often be handled by simple means of cutting off access, like in the case of rats.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I learned this in school...bullies will ALWAYS continue to be bullies until the day you stop taking it and punch their nose a few times. Funny they...and everyone watching never bothered me again! They have ZERO common sense so that won't resonate with them. God even called for wars in the Bible. Kumbaya doesn't fix everything...unfortunately!
And furthermore, saying something about HATE turns into wanting “Kumbayah,” which actually MEANS, “come by here.” It’s a prayer, actually, for the Lord to “come by here.”
Well when you're a Christian you ALWAYS ask that daily. However, again God called for wars in the Bible and it didn't tell them to go pray them to death. He didn't give David a feather...he gave him a rock and a slingshot!
I don't believe in gods who call for war, and if they exist, I choose not to "follow" them. I don't recall Jesus ever telling people to hate each other, or to beat each other up. Of course, you are free to believe whatever you like, and amazingly enough, I'm just fine with that. I am retreating from this page, as I find it to be extremely hostile here, so thank you for your courtesy, even if we don't see "eye to eye." cheers.
God is Jesus's Father. The point you're missing is...no one wants it to turn to bloodshed, but it may whether WE want it to or not. My question is...if someone breaks into your house with deadly intent do you believe you're not supposed to retaliate? Do you believe Jesus would not expect you to defend yourself? Again, no one in their right mind WANTS to fight, but if you come at me or my family OR our Freedom that is GOD given NOT government given...I'm going to defend us!
What you feel about religion is nothing to do with me, I don't tell people what to believe, and I don't need an explanation of Christianity.
"no one wants it to turn to bloodshed, but it may whether WE want it to or not."
Well, there ya go. Just look at this conversation. No one wanted to beat the shit out of me, but it happened anyway. You proved your own point with your own knee-jerk reactionary jump to conclusions, just like everyone else. What the hell is wrong with people? You're all just POISED to FIGHT. Have you ever considered the possibility that you're being LED BY THE NOSE? That this is the DESIRED behavior, and you're being trained, prodded??
Look at yourselves! FFS
Is it SO DIFFICULT to allow someone to explain what they mean? But nooooooo, you all jumped to conclusions that were NEVER on the table!! EVERY SINGLE THING that I was accused of saying, I never said.
Unbelievable. And you're ANGRY at me for ... not ever saying any of what you've all accused me of!
You're TOOLS, folks. Welcome to training camp, courtesy of the Globalist Agenda.
It doesn't MATTER what I say, you're all like trained rats, ready to instantly dispute whatever, doesn't even matter what is said, it's all about what you want to THINK is said.
Pretty LAME. But do I HATE you all? Uh, no. I'm just disgusted.
Now I'm done with you folks. I don't see anything changing. You just keep trying to WIN the argument. Thing is, there never was an argument, you all just yelled at me without having one little clue about what I was talking about. You say you have no way to control the outcome-- talk about handing over your power!!! And you think that's courage??????
Buh bye.
To repeat myself, we are not supposed to hate the sinner—we are all fallen sinners. We are supposed to hate the sin. So it would be wrong to hate a murderer but right to hate murder. The murderer can repent and be saved, but murder is an evil *action*; it lacks the logical capacity for repentance or salvation. God is perfect love and also perfect justice; evil must be rejected absolutely. Do you disagree?
Yes, I disagree. I think that ALL revealed religions are a detriment to human non violent interaction. Everyone one wants to be right in the debate. I never, in all of my years of reading the bible came to the conclusion we are supposed to hate the sin and not the sinner. MURDER is not something I could forgive and certainly I would hate the murderer if they had murdered one of my friends of family. So much so that I would have no problem with putting a bullet in their face and sleep well that night. And what do you do with verses like this? Isiah 45vs7...how do YOU "interpret" this? “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” I want you to know that I'm no bible illiterate. But I AM a denominational illiterate because ALL of them think they are right and that the rest are wrong.
Where did I say you have to LOVE a bully? Why is that people are so quick to jump to the exact opposite of what is said? That is not really thinking, it’s knee-jerking.
We are commanded to hate the sin but not the sinner. God himself is the epitome of love but He hates evil and sin. It is appropriate to feel righteous anger in defense of what we love.
This is a strange perception... A God that is the "epitome of love" but "hates" evil and sin. That makes no sense. I think you are not really thinking that through. And FYI, anger and hate are not synonyms, they are two different things.
I have spent months being catechized in Catholic teachings. This is the view of the church, however strange it may seem to you. Are you Christian? Familiar with the New Testament? Many secularists have a very watered down view of Christianity that is not accurate.
There are seven things that God hates. One if those is hands that shed innocent blood. God hates evil and sin because evil and sin nailed His Son to a cross.
Bravo ⚔️🛡️
For 1600 years been both, now the last of my kind in the family......
Cheers