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Courageous Lion's avatar

So for someone to take words attributed to Lincoln out of context is not fake history? Would you like me to get some of Lincoln's obviously racist quotes together to help pop your bubble of worship of him? How about we look at the FACT that the "emancipation proclamation" was aimed only at the Southern states and did not free or attempt to free slaves in the north. Lincoln was our first dictatorial president with some of the garbage he pulled. I just wish Booth had gotten to him a little earlier and who knows where things might be today.

I this fake history too? From https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/debate4.htm

At the fourth Lincoln-Douglas debate, held in Charleston, South Carolina, the “Great Emancipator” began with the following

“While I was at the hotel to-day, an elderly gentleman called upon me to know whether I was really in favor of producing a perfect equality between the negroes and white people. [Great Laughter.] While I had not proposed to myself on this occasion to say much on that subject, yet as the question was asked me I thought I would occupy perhaps five minutes in saying something in regard to it. I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]-that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied every thing. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. [Cheers and laughter.] My understanding is that I can just let her alone. I am now in my fiftieth year, and I certainly never have had a black woman for either a slave or a wife. So it seems to me quite possible for us to get along without making either slaves or wives of negroes. I will add to this that I have never seen, to my knowledge, a man, woman or child who was in favor of producing a perfect equality, social and political, between negroes and white men. … I will also add to the remarks I have made (for I am not going to enter at large upon this subject,) that I have never had the least apprehension that I or my friends would marry negroes if there was no law to keep them from it, [laughter] but as Judge Douglas and his friends seem to be in great apprehension that they might, if there were no law to keep them from it, [roars of laughter] I give him the most solemn pledge that I will to the very last stand by the law of this State, which forbids the marrying of white people with negroes. [Continued laughter and applause.]”

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Aristaeus's avatar

“The term Civil War is a misnomer.”

This certainly is not a true statement. The American Civil War was waged by the Confederate States of America against the United States of America on April 12, 1861 by bombing American soldiers in Fort Sumter while they were flying an American flag. That is by definition a civil war.

“The South did not instigate a rebellion.”

This isn’t true either. Johnny Reb was a proud Southern rebel fighting to keep their way of life in the South the master/slave economic system as described in the Confederate Constitution ratified March 11, 1861. Rebels rebelling is most certainly rebellion.

I don’t know who you are trying to fool but you can’t fool us. We think you may be down the wrong rabbit hole.

http://npshistory.com/publications/fosu/decision.pdf

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