Citizen ship is a construct. If I claim to be a citizen of the State of Arkansas, I am a citizen of the state of Arkansas. How can you dispute it or prove otherwise? When will people realize that the pecking order is GOD>MAN>COUNTY GOVERNMENT>STATE GOVERNMENT>FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I don't think this frames the discussion adequately. Citizenship is a loaded term that means agent of a foreign power. Your USA citizenship means that you work for a British Company, The USA. I read this Anna Von Reitz article about an American Hereditary Head of State. It's a compelling read: https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Hereditary-Head-of-State-History.pdf Especially the last half of the article when she starts to discuss the history of the Middle Ages, and who Americans are, and where our freedoms and status actually originate.
At least it frames it enough to get folks that read it to think. But they DO need to read it and just not comment because of the title. I respect Anna and her immense research into historical precedents. Our freedoms and status originate farther back then she even realizes. We ARE the Israelites of the Bible. I'm convinced. The more I look at what is being said between the lines for 9/10ths of the book, reality bespeaks that fact. The book is written to, for and about Israel. And it isn't the one in the middle east. They are trying their best to usurp the promises and covenants made by the Almighty with the ones that Jesus calls the lost sheep in Matthew 15vs24. Who IS IT that hears His voice?
The other thing that Anna Von Reitz's writing brought to my mind is the Muggletonian doctrine of the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. The wheat grow up with the chaff, and Jesus comes with his winnowing fork and separates the two. Reitz says that both Satan and Eve earned the right to contend for control of the world through their progeny. Eve seems a little outmatched, but everything's going to shake out all right.
It's one of those books that was rare to find while it was in copyright, but when the copyright expired, someone scanned it into the open library. This was a famous, award-winning book that sold out immediately and never got a second printing (or I don't know of one). It just became accessible when its copyright expired a couple of years ago. Someone doesn't want you to read it.
Good read. Good points. No one talks about having skin in the game in order to exercise the responsibility to vote until this author. Voting should never had been made a right by amendment. Our wise forfathers left voting out of the bill of rights for a reason; its an earned responsibility not a right. You must have skin in the game to vote. In other words, putting more in than taking out. You don't get to vote just for showing up in some state. You don't get to vote to take other's money. They can vote to give you theirs but you can't vote to take it.
Democracy ends when the population realizes they can vote themselves money.
State rights, the 10th amendment, is the only right mentioned with 9 individual rights in the bill if rights. It's put in a special place and yet it gets trampled as often as our individual rights.
There are ALWAYS more people who don’t own property than there are those that do. Once you give the power to the people who don’t own property to vote away the property of the property owners, you seal the doom of the system. And you are absolutely correct. Voting is SUPPOSED to be earned, not a right. What pisses me off is that my dumb ass neighbor can vote to raise the rent on my home…Sorry the communists call it rent, we call it “property taxes”, so he can send his dumb ass kid to a government school to be taught how to be more of a dumb ass and he comes out being able to vote for more theft while I, and my wife in the meantime HOMESCHOOL our four sons teaching them about REAL civic responsibility which is based on VOLUTARY giving, not forced at a gun point. So we get to absorb the cost of homeschool which in our case was more than ONE MILLION DOLLARS over a 20 year period as she was an Registered Nurse, and my neighbors stick a gun in my face via the local taxing “authorities” to pay for his dumb ass kids too. My country tis of thee…sweat land of SLAVERY…of thee I sing!!! People as a whole are so daft.
People forget that most men didn't get to vote, it wasn't just women because it was an earned responsibility. The voter roll was the the registry of deeds, so you had to be a property owner ( skin in the game), you had to be registered for the military or join the militia,(more skin again) be a member of the fire brigade( still more responsibility) and carry a gun, so you were an asset to public safety.(Again responsibility)
The occult Marxist feminist movement ended this and gave everyone a right they didn't earn. ( Zero responsibility). Unconstitutionally I would add because it's not in alienable right.
You can trace the demise of society and our country back to 1920 and thank the feminist. The anti patriarchy, which is Christian based, therefore anti-Christian, or anti-Christ.
I go back farther to the UNcivil war against the south's effort to get out of the marriage contract. The end result being the destruction of the original intent of the framers and rise of total domination of the feds over ever aspect of our lives. 1913 was also a pivotal year for the coffin that had been built as they started to nail the coffin shut. What you said "you had to be registered for the military or join the militia,(more skin again) be a member of the fire brigade( still more responsibility) and carry a gun, so you were an asset to public safety.(Again responsibility)" that was infringed on in 1916 with the so called militia act, starting back in 1906 with the DICKless act. See: https://www.courageouslion.us/p/those-forgotten-and-ignored-13-words AND https://www.courageouslion.us/p/there-is-a-reason-they-dont-listen
My comment focuses a lot in the last nail of the coffin. The civil war was a free Masonry designed power take over towards globalists goals even back then. Unifying power. It was an illegal, unjust war. It wasn't about slavery as the history books vomit. It was always about destroying state rights and making a powerful federal government. Our States should have stayed sovereign.
Our forfathers feared a powerful federal government and we failed them. We allowed it.
I believe your assumption is correct as the 14th amendment seems to be the lynch pin and from my research I find it wasn’t properly ratified by the proper amount of states. The SOUTH was left out of the decision.
UNITED STATES INC — the UNITED STATES is a corporation. Formed in Delaware in 1871. All UNITED STATES citizens are governed under the corporate law of the UNITED STATES. All corporations must have a President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer. Hence, the UNITED STATES INC formed in Act of 1871.
Did The Act of 1871 Transform the United States of America into a Corporation?
Constitutional Rights, Government, History
(Chaz Anon) Jan Halper Hayes, former VP of Republicans Overseas, went on a British news show to discuss Trump’s newest Indictment. In the process of the discussion, she brought up The Act of 1871, which many historians claim transformed America into a corporation, and in the process making its citizens property of that entity.
According to Wikipedia:
The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 is an Act of Congress that repealed the individual charters of the cities of Washington and Georgetown and established a new territorial government for the whole District of Columbia. Though Congress repealed the territorial government in 1874, the legislation was the first to create a single municipal government for the federal district.[1]
The Act is the basis of several claims held by the sovereign citizen movement. According to these, the Act made the District, and consequently the whole United States, into a business corporation.[12] These claims stem from the term municipal corporation used in the Act.[13][14] There are many kinds of corporations; a corporation is any group authorized to legally act as a single entity; in this case, an incorporated, organized district of the United States. Most U.S. cities and counties are municipal corporations.
But according to many constitutional historians, 1871 was the year that the original United States constitution was abandoned and new one put in its place. Ever since then the United States president and the United States Congress has been playing politics under a different set of rules and policies.
Most American’s do not know that there are two Constitutions in the United States. Historian Jordan Maxwell explained it as The UNITED STATES (corporation) versus the united states of America. The first one is the one most people think about and are taught in history class.
On July 4, 1776, the people claimed their independence from the Crown (which is the temporal authority of the Roman Catholic Pope) and our Republic was born. For 95 years the United States people were free and independent.
But that freedom ended in 1871 when the original “Constitution for the United States for America” was changed to the “THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” written all in capitals. The Congress realized that the country was in dire financial straits (because of the Civil War), so they made a financial deal with the devil – the Crown/Banking Cartel (a.k.a. City of London Corporation established by the Catholic Church on Jan 1, 1855 ) thereby incurring a DEBT to the Pope. The conniving Pope and his bankers were not about to lend the floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a way of taking back control of the United States and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed.
With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia. With the passage of “the Act of 1871” a city state (a state within a state) called the District of Columbia located on 10 sq. miles of land in the heart of Washington was formed with its own flag and its own independent constitution – the United States’ secret second constitution.
The flag of Washington’s District of Columbia has 3 red stars, each symbolizing a city-state within the three city empire. The three city empire consists of Washington D.C (the D.C. stands for District of Columbia), City of London Corporation, and Vatican City State. City of London Corporation is the corporate center of the three city-states and controls the world economically.
Washington D.C. is in charge of the military, and the Vatican controls it all under the guise of spiritual guidance. Although geographically separate, the city-states of; City of London Corporation, the Vatican and the District of Columbia are one interlocking empire called “Empire of the City”
The constitution for the District of Columbia operates under tyrannical Vatican law known as “Lex Fori” (local law). When congress illegally passed the act of 1871 it created a corporation known as THE UNITED STATES and a separate form of government for the District of Columbia. This treasonous act has unlawfully allowed the District of Columbia to operate as a corporation outside the original constitution of the United States and in total disregard of the best interests of the American citizens.
According to Jordan Maxwell, fundamentally, there are two things on Earth — land and water. Subsequently, we have the law of the land, and the law of the water. The law of the land is the law of the people on the land where they live. However, the law of the sea/water is international. They are banking laws. When you get a credit card in the UNITED STATES, it works in Europe, or in INDIA.
All ships are female, and she delivers a product. Females produce products — labor, delivery room, birth/berth, ship — "she" delivers products. When products are delivered, they need a certificate of manifest. What is on the ship is on its manifest. Humans are maritime/admiralty products. They also have certificates of manifest, which are "birth certificates." On the birth certificate, it shows our parent as "informant." We are then property of the Department of Commerce.
All humans are "stock." As soon as persons are birthed/berthed, they become property of the government under which they live. See UNITED STATES versus united states of America. The UNITED STATES is different than the united states of America. Constitution for the united states of America formed in 1787 and the Constitution of the UNITED STATES in 1871. UNITED STATES INC — the UNITED STATES is a corporation. Formed in Delaware in 1871. All UNITED STATES citizens are governed under the corporate law of the UNITED STATES. All corporations must have a President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer. Hence, the UNITED STATES INC formed in Act of 1871. A UNITED STATES citizen is an employee of the UNITED STATES INC. according to Jordan Maxwell.
Watch Jodan Maxwell explain in detail in the video below:
This article only tangentially prompts discussion of a larger problem, the ontology of patriotism and the natural extended family. "Citizenship", whether it be in the United States, Pennsylvania, or even Lancaster County- to use one example- is an artificial construct. It entitles one to the use of certain institutions, and exclusion from others- like the Mexico Public Library, to use a farcical example.
What is missing in this discussion is the fact that all our natural institutions- the parish, the extended family, the guild, the manor, the plantation, the school.. have been sterilized or teleologically sanitized by the Nanny State, and it is the faceless bureaucracies of the Nanny State that shall dictate the boundaries within each of these entities can act. (And needless to say, some institutions, most notably the church, whose scope and authority surpasses that of the state, have failed to protect their flocks, or offer legitimate and righteous resistance.)
Until men realize that they owe their allegiance first to Almighty God, and secondly to their natural birthright, nothing is going to change, as we live in a land of cowards.
Isn't YUGOSLAVIA a separate nation and yet the European Union wants to consolidate it into their idea of a united Europe? Bringing all the countries under control of Brussels? You didn't read the post either.
Holy shit, do you have any idea what that would mean for those who travel abroad? Each and every state would have to enter into negotiations with the countries their residents/citizens would hope to travel to for visa. As not all would, many of those who wished to travel abroad would be SOL. Akihabara would be less crowded with Americans, that’s for sure.
This says nothing of those of us who are living abroad. With which state would I be able to claim citizenship in, having lived in Japan since 2000?
It's PLENTY broke. Makes me think you didn't read the post. It explains a lot of what you aren't understanding. Why wouldn't each state be listed as a separate country like it is in Europe? You couldn't have spent the 9 minutes reading this required. No way. You simple looked at the title and responded. Admit it.
What does that have to do with what is being suggested? He would have have had his passport revoked from the state he was in. BTW…I understand you can actually get a state passport. I’m looking into it. Ever read the 10th amendment? Ever do any research on the 14th amendment that wasn’t ratified according to the requirements of the document it is attached to? Ever read what Judge Roger Sherman had to say about central government vs local government that the people can control? Everything is BACKWARDS and you seem to not mind it. The FEDERAL government is SUPPOSED to be SERVING the States. NOT the other way around.
Oh! I understand now. You have a Time Machine. I bring up Bobby Fischer to show what happens when your US Passport is revoked, which is what would happen if the US switched to state issued passports. Do you know what happened to him? Japanese immigration and police boarded the plane he was on to leave Japan and took him into custody. He got zero help from the US, (Do you think whatever state I ceased residing in a quarter of century ago would come to my aid?) and remained in a tiny cell in solitary confinement until Iceland granted him citizenship and he was deported to there. Luckily, he being world famous, he had friends in the chess community of Iceland who arranged this for him. Most of us who live abroad cannot hope for such help.
Ok, get your state to issue a passport. Then apply for a visa to enter the country of your choice, and then try a few others and tell me how that goes.
Your other statements are also baseless. I spent 7 years trying to enlist the aid of friends, family, elected officials, NGOs to fight FATCA/FBAR ands CBT. No one cares.
You really think rulings of a judge have any meaning? That the amendments to the constitution have meaning? That the constitution does? Learned over 30 years that there are law schools in the US that do not even teach the constitution as in their view, it no longer has any relevance to modern US law. Look around and tell me that that isn’t in fact how things stand. FBAR is the very definition of a general warrant which are specifically prohibited by the constitution. Try challenging it court. Seriously, give it try. Each we have tried, it gets shot down because the judge says we don’t have standing to bring the case. FBAR is in clear cut violation of the 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th amendments. Yet, it still stands. No one cares.
I spent every moment I could find or created for 7 or so years researching the issues of citizenship based taxation (CBT), FATCA/FBAR, relinquishing/renouncing US citizenship, appear and real divorces to protect my family, who are Japanese from these as well as the passport and foreign travel implications of all this. I passed what I learned on to my parents, friends here in Japan and the States and too at least two different committees of the US legislature. I have tried to warn all I work with in Japan. No one will even look at the FATCA letter my bank in Japan gave me to say nothing of take a copy. NO ONE CARES. I have sent cash, Japanese Yen, in envelopes to help fund the Canadian Charter Challenge against FATCA in the hope that it would be the first dominoe to fall on this illegal financial data grab by the US. It failed. The penalties to that counties financial system (30% of all US derived income.) were decided to be too big to uphold the rights of its citizens against the US reporting regime. And this doesn’t even scratch the surface.
But in simpler terms, if your proposal for states to issue passports and the US to stop were adopted, all we who are abroad would be in serious trouble, trouble of the nature Bobby Fischer suffered. So do not be surprised if we do not support your fanaticism.
I read most of it from the source who liked too before I saw your post. You ignore the fact that there are others involved, like every other nation on the planet. Most countries are so fed up dealing with the all the requirements that US places upon an any and all who deal with its citizens that they lock us out of banking and employment. Now, having 50 plus, I do not know how many territories we have, new “nations” to deal with it will be even harder for us to live outside the US.
Besides, the change you promote would render many of your fellow US citizens who live abroad stateless. Losing my US passport, I would lose my visa to remain in Japan, but where would they deport me to?
Having live overseas for close to decades, I am quite familiar to the ever changing landscape of passport issuance and visa requirements. Your posting here shows you do not. I do not need to read much of what you posted, despite reading some of it elsewhere, to know the ramifications of what you propose. It aint’t broke. Not in the way you believe it is. The broken part lies elsewhere. Look into FATCA/FBAR and CBT to find where it needs to be fixed.
again…so you think that by having a leviathan of a government that acts like we are all it’s property is a better than having one close enough to at least be able to drive to the capitol and scream bloody murder? I think you need to be doing a bit more studying before commenting.
To get away from "federal citizenship". That's what I propose. That we get back to an Articles of Confederation basis with a few more additions like a bill of rights and the use of gold and silver for money. You and I see reality from our own perspectives. It doesn't mean you are right or I am right. I just means that we don't understand each others perspectives.
On the reality front, your comments indicate that you either have not considered the likely results of your proposals, should they be put in to practice, or do not care. Have you ever lived abroad and had to deal with the uncertainties of renewing your visa and passport?
Sorry, Lion, but I have a rather hard time with this one. Imagine the secession around our southern states. We’d be gone, and taking our ball with us. The southeast would become a different country altogether.
Maybe that’s a good idea. If it would have happened PROPERLY without the north interfering in the RIGHT back then, we might be two separate nations right now. And I’d be living in one that understands the Constitution unlike the blue states. It wouldn’t’ have been a BAD thing. Spend the 9 minutes necessary to read the post Alan.
Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, The United Kingdom, The United States of America
(States of Colorado, Hawaii, Maryland, Ohio, Oregon, Virginia and Washington only), and Taiwan
You are not required to take a driving skills test if your license was issued by the authorities in the
following country.
The United States of America (State of Indiana only)”
This has changed since I obtained mine around 15 years ago. At that time I was told that all US citizens had to get their state DLs translated and take both the written and driving tests to get a Japanese DL. My state is not in the list above but as I recall, this was true for all state DLs at the time.
As with DLs, the cost to get a state issued passport, for the states that choose to under take all the costs involved, including passport control for visiting aliens on passports issued by their nations, would differ greatly between the states. As someone else mentioned, Blue states would be allowing in numbers of people far in excess of the illegals they now do and all would be able to vote as they would be citizens.
This is the worst thought out idea I have run across in a long time.
Maybe for drivers licenses. Have you ever read the Articles of Confederation? That would be basically what the states would be united under with a few additions. Such as a bill of rights and a state understanding of what money needs to be. Some THING. We don't NEED a top down Federal Government with 429 unelected unconstitutional bureaucracies running our lives.
First, the Articles for Confederation were superseded by the Constitution. Second, the Articles of Confederation mean squat to the rest of the world. This is true of the Constitution too. Second, other governments will not take on the burden of seeking out each state and territory of the US to make immigration control agreements with. They don’t for drivers license, they don’t for banking. They won’t for passports.
You are advocating, whether you know it or not, to turn me and all other US citizens living abroad in to Stateless Persons.
Why? If you are a citizen of Florida, you wouldn't be a "stateless person', YOU DIDN'T READ THE POST. You read the title and that is what you are responding to. And the Articles of Confederation did lack trade understand that could be updated. Debate over.
You know nothing of what is required to live abroad. Further, I am not a citizen of Florida. Have never lived there. But even if I were a resident of that state and had a driver’s license there, it means nothing. While there have been some changes that MAY play into this, it has not been tried and thus suspect. To obtain and maintain a visa to enter and live in a country you are not a citizen of, you must first have a valid passport issued by the nation you are a national of. As an aside, as states are not nations and thus their residents not nationals of the state, the whole argument falls apart. But for the sake if argument, lets say that the US does as you suggest and allows states to individually control passports and immigration. POOF. Just like that I no longer have a valid passport which in turn invalidates my permanent residency visa for Japan. Japan does not care a wit for your arguments. It has its own laws that are completely independent from whatever the US or any other country does. I suspect that this is the bigger reason for citizens of EU member states to still have passports issued by their individual nations rather than the EU; other countries do not want the bother nor the expense to retool their entire immigration and passport systems to allow ingress and egress on EU passports for the masses. But that last part is merely supposition on my part.
If I lost my US passport, I lose my permanent residency visa to Japan. This is why the passport revocation provision for supposed debts to the US is so egregious and of great concern to me, and to all other US expats, whether they are aware of it or not.
"States Rights" in 2025 will only make the Dissolution of the USA more Rapid. Whether this is good or bad is a matter of viewpoint,
If States can determine "citizenship" that has to be recognized then the democRat states will force current Illegals into citizenship on the other states, who will not agree. Seccession
This means that the Central Feral Gov has to remain Dominant to enforce agreement depending upon the party in power.... Seccession.
Enforced Union as in 1865, or Seccession as in 1861 ??? The "issues" have changed but the underlying conflicts have re-emerged. A People Constitutionaly Divided cannot exist as E Pluribus Unium..... except under the threat or use of Force. Fact.
So, We/Me/You will have to eventually Decide on how to proceed. Ironically the Bankruptcy of the Feral DC Gov and their Feral Reserve Banksters may make the decisions for us.
President Trump has laid out a direction for divesting some Feral power back to the states on abortion and education. Some issues have to be given to States to let the "steam" outof the boiler and avoid tyranny from DC. But too much, like States deciding citizenship will dissolve the Union, and very quickly.
ILLEGALS can be still considered ILLEGALS. Can you find me in the current Constitution where the Federal government is given the authority to protect the borders? It's left up to the STATES as it is. Illegals would have to be kicked out and come through the front door without a bit Aunt Samantha tit to suck on.
I live in ultra liberal Vermont. No thanks on this. It would mean even more illegals in this state. The current situation is bad enough. This would just make even worse.
Citizen ship is a construct. If I claim to be a citizen of the State of Arkansas, I am a citizen of the state of Arkansas. How can you dispute it or prove otherwise? When will people realize that the pecking order is GOD>MAN>COUNTY GOVERNMENT>STATE GOVERNMENT>FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I don't think this frames the discussion adequately. Citizenship is a loaded term that means agent of a foreign power. Your USA citizenship means that you work for a British Company, The USA. I read this Anna Von Reitz article about an American Hereditary Head of State. It's a compelling read: https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Hereditary-Head-of-State-History.pdf Especially the last half of the article when she starts to discuss the history of the Middle Ages, and who Americans are, and where our freedoms and status actually originate.
At least it frames it enough to get folks that read it to think. But they DO need to read it and just not comment because of the title. I respect Anna and her immense research into historical precedents. Our freedoms and status originate farther back then she even realizes. We ARE the Israelites of the Bible. I'm convinced. The more I look at what is being said between the lines for 9/10ths of the book, reality bespeaks that fact. The book is written to, for and about Israel. And it isn't the one in the middle east. They are trying their best to usurp the promises and covenants made by the Almighty with the ones that Jesus calls the lost sheep in Matthew 15vs24. Who IS IT that hears His voice?
The other thing that Anna Von Reitz's writing brought to my mind is the Muggletonian doctrine of the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. The wheat grow up with the chaff, and Jesus comes with his winnowing fork and separates the two. Reitz says that both Satan and Eve earned the right to contend for control of the world through their progeny. Eve seems a little outmatched, but everything's going to shake out all right.
This is an interesting thread. Who were the Merovingians? Someone posted this interesting book in my comments: https://archive.org/details/jewishprincedomi0000zuck/page/n5/mode/2up?view=theater
It's one of those books that was rare to find while it was in copyright, but when the copyright expired, someone scanned it into the open library. This was a famous, award-winning book that sold out immediately and never got a second printing (or I don't know of one). It just became accessible when its copyright expired a couple of years ago. Someone doesn't want you to read it.
Good read. Good points. No one talks about having skin in the game in order to exercise the responsibility to vote until this author. Voting should never had been made a right by amendment. Our wise forfathers left voting out of the bill of rights for a reason; its an earned responsibility not a right. You must have skin in the game to vote. In other words, putting more in than taking out. You don't get to vote just for showing up in some state. You don't get to vote to take other's money. They can vote to give you theirs but you can't vote to take it.
Democracy ends when the population realizes they can vote themselves money.
State rights, the 10th amendment, is the only right mentioned with 9 individual rights in the bill if rights. It's put in a special place and yet it gets trampled as often as our individual rights.
There are ALWAYS more people who don’t own property than there are those that do. Once you give the power to the people who don’t own property to vote away the property of the property owners, you seal the doom of the system. And you are absolutely correct. Voting is SUPPOSED to be earned, not a right. What pisses me off is that my dumb ass neighbor can vote to raise the rent on my home…Sorry the communists call it rent, we call it “property taxes”, so he can send his dumb ass kid to a government school to be taught how to be more of a dumb ass and he comes out being able to vote for more theft while I, and my wife in the meantime HOMESCHOOL our four sons teaching them about REAL civic responsibility which is based on VOLUTARY giving, not forced at a gun point. So we get to absorb the cost of homeschool which in our case was more than ONE MILLION DOLLARS over a 20 year period as she was an Registered Nurse, and my neighbors stick a gun in my face via the local taxing “authorities” to pay for his dumb ass kids too. My country tis of thee…sweat land of SLAVERY…of thee I sing!!! People as a whole are so daft.
This post will really set your beliefs in stone. https://www.courageouslion.us/p/communism-american-style
Yes, your right.
People forget that most men didn't get to vote, it wasn't just women because it was an earned responsibility. The voter roll was the the registry of deeds, so you had to be a property owner ( skin in the game), you had to be registered for the military or join the militia,(more skin again) be a member of the fire brigade( still more responsibility) and carry a gun, so you were an asset to public safety.(Again responsibility)
The occult Marxist feminist movement ended this and gave everyone a right they didn't earn. ( Zero responsibility). Unconstitutionally I would add because it's not in alienable right.
You can trace the demise of society and our country back to 1920 and thank the feminist. The anti patriarchy, which is Christian based, therefore anti-Christian, or anti-Christ.
I go back farther to the UNcivil war against the south's effort to get out of the marriage contract. The end result being the destruction of the original intent of the framers and rise of total domination of the feds over ever aspect of our lives. 1913 was also a pivotal year for the coffin that had been built as they started to nail the coffin shut. What you said "you had to be registered for the military or join the militia,(more skin again) be a member of the fire brigade( still more responsibility) and carry a gun, so you were an asset to public safety.(Again responsibility)" that was infringed on in 1916 with the so called militia act, starting back in 1906 with the DICKless act. See: https://www.courageouslion.us/p/those-forgotten-and-ignored-13-words AND https://www.courageouslion.us/p/there-is-a-reason-they-dont-listen
Yes.
My comment focuses a lot in the last nail of the coffin. The civil war was a free Masonry designed power take over towards globalists goals even back then. Unifying power. It was an illegal, unjust war. It wasn't about slavery as the history books vomit. It was always about destroying state rights and making a powerful federal government. Our States should have stayed sovereign.
Our forfathers feared a powerful federal government and we failed them. We allowed it.
I’m assuming making ourselves US Citizens makes us property of the US Corp Of 1871
I bet that’s in the corp docs if you could find them
I believe your assumption is correct as the 14th amendment seems to be the lynch pin and from my research I find it wasn’t properly ratified by the proper amount of states. The SOUTH was left out of the decision.
UNITED STATES INC — the UNITED STATES is a corporation. Formed in Delaware in 1871. All UNITED STATES citizens are governed under the corporate law of the UNITED STATES. All corporations must have a President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer. Hence, the UNITED STATES INC formed in Act of 1871.
And that is WHY a non citizen from Kenya was allowed to become "President" of the corporation. It's ALL CONSTRUCTIVE FRAUD!! From the get go.
Did The Act of 1871 Transform the United States of America into a Corporation?
Constitutional Rights, Government, History
(Chaz Anon) Jan Halper Hayes, former VP of Republicans Overseas, went on a British news show to discuss Trump’s newest Indictment. In the process of the discussion, she brought up The Act of 1871, which many historians claim transformed America into a corporation, and in the process making its citizens property of that entity.
According to Wikipedia:
The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 is an Act of Congress that repealed the individual charters of the cities of Washington and Georgetown and established a new territorial government for the whole District of Columbia. Though Congress repealed the territorial government in 1874, the legislation was the first to create a single municipal government for the federal district.[1]
The Act is the basis of several claims held by the sovereign citizen movement. According to these, the Act made the District, and consequently the whole United States, into a business corporation.[12] These claims stem from the term municipal corporation used in the Act.[13][14] There are many kinds of corporations; a corporation is any group authorized to legally act as a single entity; in this case, an incorporated, organized district of the United States. Most U.S. cities and counties are municipal corporations.
But according to many constitutional historians, 1871 was the year that the original United States constitution was abandoned and new one put in its place. Ever since then the United States president and the United States Congress has been playing politics under a different set of rules and policies.
Most American’s do not know that there are two Constitutions in the United States. Historian Jordan Maxwell explained it as The UNITED STATES (corporation) versus the united states of America. The first one is the one most people think about and are taught in history class.
On July 4, 1776, the people claimed their independence from the Crown (which is the temporal authority of the Roman Catholic Pope) and our Republic was born. For 95 years the United States people were free and independent.
But that freedom ended in 1871 when the original “Constitution for the United States for America” was changed to the “THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” written all in capitals. The Congress realized that the country was in dire financial straits (because of the Civil War), so they made a financial deal with the devil – the Crown/Banking Cartel (a.k.a. City of London Corporation established by the Catholic Church on Jan 1, 1855 ) thereby incurring a DEBT to the Pope. The conniving Pope and his bankers were not about to lend the floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a way of taking back control of the United States and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed.
With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia. With the passage of “the Act of 1871” a city state (a state within a state) called the District of Columbia located on 10 sq. miles of land in the heart of Washington was formed with its own flag and its own independent constitution – the United States’ secret second constitution.
The flag of Washington’s District of Columbia has 3 red stars, each symbolizing a city-state within the three city empire. The three city empire consists of Washington D.C (the D.C. stands for District of Columbia), City of London Corporation, and Vatican City State. City of London Corporation is the corporate center of the three city-states and controls the world economically.
Washington D.C. is in charge of the military, and the Vatican controls it all under the guise of spiritual guidance. Although geographically separate, the city-states of; City of London Corporation, the Vatican and the District of Columbia are one interlocking empire called “Empire of the City”
The constitution for the District of Columbia operates under tyrannical Vatican law known as “Lex Fori” (local law). When congress illegally passed the act of 1871 it created a corporation known as THE UNITED STATES and a separate form of government for the District of Columbia. This treasonous act has unlawfully allowed the District of Columbia to operate as a corporation outside the original constitution of the United States and in total disregard of the best interests of the American citizens.
According to Jordan Maxwell, fundamentally, there are two things on Earth — land and water. Subsequently, we have the law of the land, and the law of the water. The law of the land is the law of the people on the land where they live. However, the law of the sea/water is international. They are banking laws. When you get a credit card in the UNITED STATES, it works in Europe, or in INDIA.
All ships are female, and she delivers a product. Females produce products — labor, delivery room, birth/berth, ship — "she" delivers products. When products are delivered, they need a certificate of manifest. What is on the ship is on its manifest. Humans are maritime/admiralty products. They also have certificates of manifest, which are "birth certificates." On the birth certificate, it shows our parent as "informant." We are then property of the Department of Commerce.
All humans are "stock." As soon as persons are birthed/berthed, they become property of the government under which they live. See UNITED STATES versus united states of America. The UNITED STATES is different than the united states of America. Constitution for the united states of America formed in 1787 and the Constitution of the UNITED STATES in 1871. UNITED STATES INC — the UNITED STATES is a corporation. Formed in Delaware in 1871. All UNITED STATES citizens are governed under the corporate law of the UNITED STATES. All corporations must have a President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer. Hence, the UNITED STATES INC formed in Act of 1871. A UNITED STATES citizen is an employee of the UNITED STATES INC. according to Jordan Maxwell.
Watch Jodan Maxwell explain in detail in the video below:
articles-of-incorporation-of-u-s-corp-company.pdf (wordpress.com)
United States is a corporation (foundationfortruthinlaw.org)
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This article only tangentially prompts discussion of a larger problem, the ontology of patriotism and the natural extended family. "Citizenship", whether it be in the United States, Pennsylvania, or even Lancaster County- to use one example- is an artificial construct. It entitles one to the use of certain institutions, and exclusion from others- like the Mexico Public Library, to use a farcical example.
What is missing in this discussion is the fact that all our natural institutions- the parish, the extended family, the guild, the manor, the plantation, the school.. have been sterilized or teleologically sanitized by the Nanny State, and it is the faceless bureaucracies of the Nanny State that shall dictate the boundaries within each of these entities can act. (And needless to say, some institutions, most notably the church, whose scope and authority surpasses that of the state, have failed to protect their flocks, or offer legitimate and righteous resistance.)
Until men realize that they owe their allegiance first to Almighty God, and secondly to their natural birthright, nothing is going to change, as we live in a land of cowards.
SHOUT IT WOLF!!!
I don't know where I subscribed, but not on the place where anyone understands reality.
You actually think such a place exists?
Well, some DO understand reality, it's just that some refuse to accept reality as reality.
Isn't YUGOSLAVIA a separate nation and yet the European Union wants to consolidate it into their idea of a united Europe? Bringing all the countries under control of Brussels? You didn't read the post either.
Umm, you know what? I live in Antarctica, and I'm an Antarctic nationalist!
Slava Antarctica!
Is there much snow down there?
Holy shit, do you have any idea what that would mean for those who travel abroad? Each and every state would have to enter into negotiations with the countries their residents/citizens would hope to travel to for visa. As not all would, many of those who wished to travel abroad would be SOL. Akihabara would be less crowded with Americans, that’s for sure.
This says nothing of those of us who are living abroad. With which state would I be able to claim citizenship in, having lived in Japan since 2000?
If it ain’t broke, DON’T FIX IT.
It's PLENTY broke. Makes me think you didn't read the post. It explains a lot of what you aren't understanding. Why wouldn't each state be listed as a separate country like it is in Europe? You couldn't have spent the 9 minutes reading this required. No way. You simple looked at the title and responded. Admit it.
Look into what happened to chess champion Bobby Fischer when the US revoked his passport while he was in Japan.
What does that have to do with what is being suggested? He would have have had his passport revoked from the state he was in. BTW…I understand you can actually get a state passport. I’m looking into it. Ever read the 10th amendment? Ever do any research on the 14th amendment that wasn’t ratified according to the requirements of the document it is attached to? Ever read what Judge Roger Sherman had to say about central government vs local government that the people can control? Everything is BACKWARDS and you seem to not mind it. The FEDERAL government is SUPPOSED to be SERVING the States. NOT the other way around.
Oh! I understand now. You have a Time Machine. I bring up Bobby Fischer to show what happens when your US Passport is revoked, which is what would happen if the US switched to state issued passports. Do you know what happened to him? Japanese immigration and police boarded the plane he was on to leave Japan and took him into custody. He got zero help from the US, (Do you think whatever state I ceased residing in a quarter of century ago would come to my aid?) and remained in a tiny cell in solitary confinement until Iceland granted him citizenship and he was deported to there. Luckily, he being world famous, he had friends in the chess community of Iceland who arranged this for him. Most of us who live abroad cannot hope for such help.
Ok, get your state to issue a passport. Then apply for a visa to enter the country of your choice, and then try a few others and tell me how that goes.
Your other statements are also baseless. I spent 7 years trying to enlist the aid of friends, family, elected officials, NGOs to fight FATCA/FBAR ands CBT. No one cares.
You really think rulings of a judge have any meaning? That the amendments to the constitution have meaning? That the constitution does? Learned over 30 years that there are law schools in the US that do not even teach the constitution as in their view, it no longer has any relevance to modern US law. Look around and tell me that that isn’t in fact how things stand. FBAR is the very definition of a general warrant which are specifically prohibited by the constitution. Try challenging it court. Seriously, give it try. Each we have tried, it gets shot down because the judge says we don’t have standing to bring the case. FBAR is in clear cut violation of the 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th amendments. Yet, it still stands. No one cares.
I spent every moment I could find or created for 7 or so years researching the issues of citizenship based taxation (CBT), FATCA/FBAR, relinquishing/renouncing US citizenship, appear and real divorces to protect my family, who are Japanese from these as well as the passport and foreign travel implications of all this. I passed what I learned on to my parents, friends here in Japan and the States and too at least two different committees of the US legislature. I have tried to warn all I work with in Japan. No one will even look at the FATCA letter my bank in Japan gave me to say nothing of take a copy. NO ONE CARES. I have sent cash, Japanese Yen, in envelopes to help fund the Canadian Charter Challenge against FATCA in the hope that it would be the first dominoe to fall on this illegal financial data grab by the US. It failed. The penalties to that counties financial system (30% of all US derived income.) were decided to be too big to uphold the rights of its citizens against the US reporting regime. And this doesn’t even scratch the surface.
But in simpler terms, if your proposal for states to issue passports and the US to stop were adopted, all we who are abroad would be in serious trouble, trouble of the nature Bobby Fischer suffered. So do not be surprised if we do not support your fanaticism.
I read most of it from the source who liked too before I saw your post. You ignore the fact that there are others involved, like every other nation on the planet. Most countries are so fed up dealing with the all the requirements that US places upon an any and all who deal with its citizens that they lock us out of banking and employment. Now, having 50 plus, I do not know how many territories we have, new “nations” to deal with it will be even harder for us to live outside the US.
Besides, the change you promote would render many of your fellow US citizens who live abroad stateless. Losing my US passport, I would lose my visa to remain in Japan, but where would they deport me to?
Having live overseas for close to decades, I am quite familiar to the ever changing landscape of passport issuance and visa requirements. Your posting here shows you do not. I do not need to read much of what you posted, despite reading some of it elsewhere, to know the ramifications of what you propose. It aint’t broke. Not in the way you believe it is. The broken part lies elsewhere. Look into FATCA/FBAR and CBT to find where it needs to be fixed.
again…so you think that by having a leviathan of a government that acts like we are all it’s property is a better than having one close enough to at least be able to drive to the capitol and scream bloody murder? I think you need to be doing a bit more studying before commenting.
Where do you get that from what I have posted? I am merely relaying reality. What do you propose to solve this issue?
To get away from "federal citizenship". That's what I propose. That we get back to an Articles of Confederation basis with a few more additions like a bill of rights and the use of gold and silver for money. You and I see reality from our own perspectives. It doesn't mean you are right or I am right. I just means that we don't understand each others perspectives.
And how do you propose to get this done?
On the reality front, your comments indicate that you either have not considered the likely results of your proposals, should they be put in to practice, or do not care. Have you ever lived abroad and had to deal with the uncertainties of renewing your visa and passport?
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Sorry, Lion, but I have a rather hard time with this one. Imagine the secession around our southern states. We’d be gone, and taking our ball with us. The southeast would become a different country altogether.
Maybe that’s a good idea. If it would have happened PROPERLY without the north interfering in the RIGHT back then, we might be two separate nations right now. And I’d be living in one that understands the Constitution unlike the blue states. It wouldn’t’ have been a BAD thing. Spend the 9 minutes necessary to read the post Alan.
For example, as each state of the US issues its own drivers license, here is what that means for we Americans wishing to obtain a DL in Japan.
“You are not required to take a knowledge test and a driving skills test if your license was issued by
the authorities in the following countries and a region.
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece,
Holland, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Monaco, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal,
Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, The United Kingdom, The United States of America
(States of Colorado, Hawaii, Maryland, Ohio, Oregon, Virginia and Washington only), and Taiwan
You are not required to take a driving skills test if your license was issued by the authorities in the
following country.
The United States of America (State of Indiana only)”
This has changed since I obtained mine around 15 years ago. At that time I was told that all US citizens had to get their state DLs translated and take both the written and driving tests to get a Japanese DL. My state is not in the list above but as I recall, this was true for all state DLs at the time.
As with DLs, the cost to get a state issued passport, for the states that choose to under take all the costs involved, including passport control for visiting aliens on passports issued by their nations, would differ greatly between the states. As someone else mentioned, Blue states would be allowing in numbers of people far in excess of the illegals they now do and all would be able to vote as they would be citizens.
This is the worst thought out idea I have run across in a long time.
Maybe for drivers licenses. Have you ever read the Articles of Confederation? That would be basically what the states would be united under with a few additions. Such as a bill of rights and a state understanding of what money needs to be. Some THING. We don't NEED a top down Federal Government with 429 unelected unconstitutional bureaucracies running our lives.
First, the Articles for Confederation were superseded by the Constitution. Second, the Articles of Confederation mean squat to the rest of the world. This is true of the Constitution too. Second, other governments will not take on the burden of seeking out each state and territory of the US to make immigration control agreements with. They don’t for drivers license, they don’t for banking. They won’t for passports.
You are advocating, whether you know it or not, to turn me and all other US citizens living abroad in to Stateless Persons.
Why? If you are a citizen of Florida, you wouldn't be a "stateless person', YOU DIDN'T READ THE POST. You read the title and that is what you are responding to. And the Articles of Confederation did lack trade understand that could be updated. Debate over.
Oh, and currently, there is no such thing as a “citizen of Florida” nor any other individual state of the US.
You know nothing of what is required to live abroad. Further, I am not a citizen of Florida. Have never lived there. But even if I were a resident of that state and had a driver’s license there, it means nothing. While there have been some changes that MAY play into this, it has not been tried and thus suspect. To obtain and maintain a visa to enter and live in a country you are not a citizen of, you must first have a valid passport issued by the nation you are a national of. As an aside, as states are not nations and thus their residents not nationals of the state, the whole argument falls apart. But for the sake if argument, lets say that the US does as you suggest and allows states to individually control passports and immigration. POOF. Just like that I no longer have a valid passport which in turn invalidates my permanent residency visa for Japan. Japan does not care a wit for your arguments. It has its own laws that are completely independent from whatever the US or any other country does. I suspect that this is the bigger reason for citizens of EU member states to still have passports issued by their individual nations rather than the EU; other countries do not want the bother nor the expense to retool their entire immigration and passport systems to allow ingress and egress on EU passports for the masses. But that last part is merely supposition on my part.
If I lost my US passport, I lose my permanent residency visa to Japan. This is why the passport revocation provision for supposed debts to the US is so egregious and of great concern to me, and to all other US expats, whether they are aware of it or not.
"States Rights" in 2025 will only make the Dissolution of the USA more Rapid. Whether this is good or bad is a matter of viewpoint,
If States can determine "citizenship" that has to be recognized then the democRat states will force current Illegals into citizenship on the other states, who will not agree. Seccession
This means that the Central Feral Gov has to remain Dominant to enforce agreement depending upon the party in power.... Seccession.
Enforced Union as in 1865, or Seccession as in 1861 ??? The "issues" have changed but the underlying conflicts have re-emerged. A People Constitutionaly Divided cannot exist as E Pluribus Unium..... except under the threat or use of Force. Fact.
So, We/Me/You will have to eventually Decide on how to proceed. Ironically the Bankruptcy of the Feral DC Gov and their Feral Reserve Banksters may make the decisions for us.
President Trump has laid out a direction for divesting some Feral power back to the states on abortion and education. Some issues have to be given to States to let the "steam" outof the boiler and avoid tyranny from DC. But too much, like States deciding citizenship will dissolve the Union, and very quickly.
ILLEGALS can be still considered ILLEGALS. Can you find me in the current Constitution where the Federal government is given the authority to protect the borders? It's left up to the STATES as it is. Illegals would have to be kicked out and come through the front door without a bit Aunt Samantha tit to suck on.
I live in ultra liberal Vermont. No thanks on this. It would mean even more illegals in this state. The current situation is bad enough. This would just make even worse.
You didn't read the post. You only read the title.