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Paul Frohlich's avatar

Governments are the problem everywhere not just USA. The tribe, the collective is a collection of weaklings. This makes them feel strong. Governments would not exist with strong individuals who think and question on their own. the weak and their leaders are the reason for all the wars in history and today. Human is the only animalthat wants to be told what to do. Other species or some do have leaders in their tribe or pack but each individual in that pack is not forced, is free to leave. Humans are not free creatures. What is in the head ov mankind are you going to die of without the government?

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Courageous Lion's avatar

So true Paul. They don't even have to draft men these days. They volunteer to go to far way distant lands, meet strange unusual people and kill them just because they were told to. It's like the cop who enforces some onerous law that he KNOWS is wrong telling you that if you don't like the law VOTE for change. Instead of him IGNORING it and letting you go, he will cage you for smoking a plant. And in some cases keep half of what he confiscates for himself as I found out working for Hollywood Florida Police department back many years ago.

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Katherine's avatar

All excellent points. Wholly infuriating.

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Hat Bailey's avatar

Boy, you got that right CL! Why do so few see the truth which is so obvious it should be clear to anyone who is not actually asleep. Like the boiling frog analogy they have managed to slowly but surely make all this shocking violation of individual rights seem normal and acceptable to most people. It is sad that when it all reaches its ultimate collapse so much misery and suffering will be the result before hopefully some future generation makes the next step in progressing toward real freedom and self honesty.

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Robert Welch's avatar

The problem with that last bit is that the next generation won't have a clue that what gets established isn't just NORMAL. " What's the problem ? " They also will believe that they have real freedom and self honesty. " And why is that, Bob ? " - Because their living condition will be perfectly normal. Real freedom and honesty would be seen as a threat, actually.

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Courageous Lion's avatar

"Real freedom and honesty would be seen as a threat, actually.' WOULD BE? It already is Robert. TRUTH is a threat to them. Courage is a threat to them. Believing that Liberty is worth more than life is a threat to them.

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Robert Welch's avatar

Misunderstanding...

I meant to the future people living in a then "normal" world where the Globalists have completely enslaved us. That world would be their Normal and they'd have no idea of what real freedom and honesty is. Thus, they'd likely even be fearful of any change in that direction, I'm assuming.

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Abigail Starke's avatar

Oh my 😬🥺😖😡 ahhh

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GenEarly's avatar

2025=1775 or Not, ..... Up to You/Me/We. Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum

The District of Criminal Bureaucrazies & democRat Bolsheviks ..... with rinoRat Quislings.

https://ncrenegade.com/doge-team-interview/

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Ted Weiland's avatar

All of which is impossible under a government of, by, and for God expressly established upon His immutable/unchanging moral law (i.e., Ten Commandments and their respective statutes and civil judgments), exclusively governed by biblically qualified men of God.

Everything here is but a few of the 100s of 1000s of consequences of the whirlwind today's America is reaping thanks to the wind sown by the constitutional framers:

"[B]ecause they have ... trespassed against my law ... they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind...." (Hosea 8:1, 7)

Today's America is reaping the inevitable ever-intensifying whirlwind resulting from the wind sown by the constitutional framers and fanned by today's hoodwinked Christians and patriots who have been bamboozled into believing today's whirlwind can be dissipated by appealing to the wind responsible for spawning the whirlwind.

For more, see Chapter 3 "The Preamble: We the People vs. Yahweh" of free online book "Bible Law vs, the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective" at https://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt3.html

Find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the sidebar and receive a free copy of the 85-page "Primer" of "BL vs. USC."

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Courageous Lion's avatar

Brother Ted... Let's address each of your points from a point of view that I am sure would be shared by many.

All of which is impossible under a government of, by, and for God expressly established upon His immutable/unchanging moral law (i.e., Ten Commandments and their respective statutes and civil judgments), exclusively governed by biblically qualified men of God.

𝘚𝘰 𝘭𝘦𝘵'𝘴 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘢𝘨𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘯 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 𝘱𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘰𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 10 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘭 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴. 𝘕𝘰𝘸 𝘪𝘧 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘸𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘮 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘵 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘴 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴, 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘥? 𝘉𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘥𝘪𝘥 𝘢𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘣𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘷𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘰𝘶𝘵 , 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘉𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘢 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘺.

𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘠𝘢𝘩𝘸𝘦𝘩 𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘳𝘴. 𝘒𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘯 𝘊𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘥. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘴𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘤𝘩 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘠𝘢𝘩𝘸𝘦𝘩'𝘴 𝘭𝘢𝘸 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘨𝘶𝘺𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘭𝘢𝘸 𝘯𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘥 𝘒𝘢𝘳𝘭 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘹. 𝘏𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 10 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘰𝘧 10 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴. 𝘚𝘰 𝘧𝘢𝘳 𝘯𝘰 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘮𝘦𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘎𝘰𝘥 𝘥𝘪𝘥 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘴𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘰𝘭 𝘴𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘦𝘴 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦.

Everything here is but a few of the 100s of 1000s of consequences of the whirlwind today's America is reaping thanks to the wind sown by the constitutional framers:

"[B]ecause they have ... trespassed against my law ... they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind...." (Hosea 8:1, 7)

Today's America is reaping the inevitable ever-intensifying whirlwind resulting from the wind sown by the constitutional framers and fanned by today's hoodwinked Christians and patriots who have been bamboozled into believing today's whirlwind can be dissipated by appealing to the wind responsible for spawning the whirlwind.

For more, see Chapter 3 "The Preamble: We the People vs. Yahweh" of free online book "Bible Law vs, the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective" at https://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt3.html

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𝘚𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘧𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘴 𝘐𝘴𝘳𝘢𝘦𝘭 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘣𝘺 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘑𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘴, 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘭𝘥. 𝘚𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳. 𝘙𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴𝘩, 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘵. 𝘈𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘚𝘌𝘓𝘍 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵? 𝘐𝘴𝘯'𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘕𝘦𝘸 𝘛𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘴? 𝘈𝘳𝘦𝘯'𝘵 𝘸𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘯𝘦𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘣𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘷𝘦𝘴? 𝘚𝘖 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘢 𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘰? 𝘖𝘳 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘺 𝘰𝘳 𝘤𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘦𝘯? 𝘖𝘳 𝘢 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘦𝘯? 𝘖𝘳 𝘢 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘦𝘯? 𝘐'𝘮 𝘥𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘨 "𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘺 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥" 𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘧 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵. 𝘚𝘶𝘳𝘦, 𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘢 𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘺 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘶𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘸𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘮𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘺 𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘩𝘦𝘳. 𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 "𝘭𝘢𝘸" 𝘢𝘴 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘤𝘦𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘎𝘙𝘈𝘊𝘌 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘔𝘌𝘙𝘊𝘠 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘠𝘢𝘩𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘢, 𝘐 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘱𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘩 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘺 𝘴𝘪𝘯 𝘢𝘤𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘤𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘮. 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘧

𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘮𝘺 𝘴𝘪𝘯 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘱𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘩? 𝘐 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘴𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥. 𝘚𝘰 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘦 𝘣𝘰𝘰𝘬𝘭𝘦𝘵, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘉𝘛𝘞...𝘐 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘤𝘰𝘱𝘺 𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘥 "𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘋𝘶𝘵𝘺 𝘜𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘊𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘶𝘱𝘵 𝘎𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵" 𝘢𝘴 𝘸𝘦𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘴 10 𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘴. 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘐 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘦. 𝘐 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘺 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘢𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘑𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘴/𝘠𝘢𝘩𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘏𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘦𝘳 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘭 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘤 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘭 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘬𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳 𝘯𝘰𝘸.

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Ted Weiland's avatar

"𝘚𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘧𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘴 𝘐𝘴𝘳𝘢𝘦𝘭 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘣𝘺 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘑𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘴, 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘭𝘥."

I agree! That's precisely what YOU are doing because of your biblically seditious anarchism that rejects our commission for biblical dominion over government and society (per Matthew 6:10 & 33, Romans 12:21, 13:1-7, etc.), that, in turn, leaves society to the wicked to rule.

And why are you in your position? At least, in part, (as you've expressed time and again) because fickle finite Mark can't understand how it can work - always a good reason to rebel against your God and Creator!!!

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Courageous Lion's avatar

Well, I'm not alone. You can't seem to explain how it would work and even after all of you've written that I've read, you still don't offer an answer that makes sense. At least to finite fickle me. I want to KNOW who is going to be the Samuel today that is going to go out and pick our next KING. Like Samuel did for Israel and picked a man who was so righteous he had a man killed so he could end up with his wife. Come on Ted. I want to KNOW who is going to show all of us this modern Samuel! Is Yahweh going to rent a airplane trailing a sign that says to everyone reading...I Yahweh hereby pick _________ Fill in the blank to be your new leader to pick those men among you who are righteous enough to be MY leaders for YOU.

I want to read how this is going to work. You should be able to do that. Since you're not finite and fickle! EXPLAIN how it is going to work. PLEASE! And do so in lieu of THIS: Jeremiah 17:9-10 “The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? I, the LORD, search the heart, HOW? I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings.

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Ted Weiland's avatar

Until you repent of your lack of faith and rebellion against the one you CLAIM to be your King (Matthew 7:21-23), your unbiblical anarchism will continue to blind you to our required obedience to His dominion commission.

I do provide, at least, some of His answers from His Word and law to your questions. But the point, Mark, is NOT whether you or I, with our fickle finite minds, can figure out how it can work, but that we trust God to accept His commission and do whatever we can to fulfill it and hopefully figure it out as we proceed - regardless the inherent human pitfalls that accompany our doing so that you're so focused on.

Your Samuel-quandary has no bearing whatsoever on today, as I've essentially demonstrated in, for example, my article "Salvation by Election" at https://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/salvation-by-election/

Or, if you prefer, you can find an audio message by the same title at https://missiontoisrael.org/tapelist.php#T1015

P.S. It would be nice if I were notified by email when you respond. Can that be made to happen?

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Courageous Lion's avatar

WOW! I guess I missed this one Brother Ted. https://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/salvation-by-election/

How can we make this happen? I haven't voted for years and the last time I did they made sure the biblically grounded candidate wouldn't win. That being Dr. Ron Paul. I don't see the CONstitution as being some sort of salvation, and the more I look at what you've been proclaiming, I do see it is being ignored. For years. The Communist manifesto took its place many years ago and that is what we are following in these United States. The more I realize that we really DO need to have some faith to walk the walk. My finite, fickle mind has a hard time wrapping itself around the idea of casting lots, but if we really DO believe that Yahweh is in control, then it makes sense that they would be accurate.

I DO BELIEVE He saved me from certain death when He stopped my van from going off a hill into a 100 foot drop three feet from the end of the slide with a simple FATHER I NEED YOUR HELP NOW prayer! More like scream than prayer. I'm also glad He is my judge and not you. Thank you Father for your GRACE and MERCY and BLESSINGS that I am not in the least bit worthy of. Another thing...I don't think that the ungodly would want to put their name in the pool for lots. If a man really looks at his own heart and where his walk is with Yahweh, he wouldn't want to be involved. I know that I wouldn't have a second thought about putting my name in because frankly, I know that I'm not perfect, but I also know that my walk at this time is as He would have me walk. So pardon me if I seem to be a bit recalcitrant because of my ignorance.

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Ted Weiland's avatar

There is no making a biblical election happen until we're able start erecting biblical ecclesias* (not the same as the horribly "translated" word churches*), which is not going to occur until the biblically egregious Constitutional Republic born of the idol, the biblically seditious Constitution is destroyed, first in the hearts and minds of today's alleged Christians, per 2 Corinthians 10:4-6.

This will someday occur per Christ in Matthew 7:26-27 & 12:25, but probably not until after Yahweh's severe judgment upon this nation:

""The United States Constitutional Republic was destined to fall from its inception. This is borne out in the following two passages:

'And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.' (Matthew 7:26-27)

'[E]very kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.; (Matthew 12:25)

"The house known as the Constitutional Republic was not built upon the rock of Yahweh’s1 word, but instead upon Enlightenment and Masonic concepts.2 It began and continues as a divided house....

"The day is therefore approaching when the Republic’s cup of iniquity will be full3 and Yahweh’s longsuffering is exhausted. At that time, the Republic will be subjected to His judgment. Like all nations before her built on sand, she will cease to exist. The question that remains is whether that generation’s Christians will be prepared to build upon her ruins. If not, another ungodly nation will fill the void until finally a future generation of our posterity are prepared to erect a government and society upon Yahweh’s righteousness as expressed in His triune moral law (His commandments, statutes, and judgments).4

"It is therefore incumbent upon this and all intervening generations of Christians to do everything in their power to help prepare for that future generation of Christians to do it right(eous) the next time...."

For more see free online book "A Biblical Constitution: A Scriptural Replacement for Secular Government" at https://missiontoisrael.org/abiblicalconstitution.php

*See free online book "Ecclesia vs. Church: Why Understanding the Difference is Critical to Our Future" at https://missiontoisrael.org/ecclesia.php

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Ted Weiland's avatar

Never mind on the P.S.. I was notified by email.

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Courageous Lion's avatar

Thanks for being involved in these discussions. I have always respected your point of view and understanding on most that you write and speak about. But don't expect me to be 100% in agreement because I also have a well thought out and researched point of view backing most of what I write. This one song that speaks to me whenever I hear it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpfwNBsVvwE

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CrimsonSnow2939's avatar

AMEN!!!

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CrimsonSnow2939's avatar

Amen, Brother!!!

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Robert Welch's avatar

Right On.

I like the idea of branding our ss number on our forehead, as a new regulation/policy. That way, one is reminded each new day when standing in front of the mirror shaving or putting on make-up or whatever, that we are part of the herd. Just a number.

"Oh, what was that ? Our unique number protects us from identity theft and other such crimes. " The problem with that argument is that we won't have an identity,, so what's to steal ???

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Paul Frohlich's avatar

I have a problem with the statement America the land of the free..... somewhat yes, you can carry a gun to protect yourself and other freedoms, but one thing bugs me as someone who question everithig in this Universe, including myself. Whoever might read this might not like what I will say here. In America some 50% baby boys penises are mutilated, the protective cover of the glans are cut of at the age when that person is unable to say no. Due to this most American woman with a man who was amputated like this, his wife will eventually hurt in sex sooner or later. The part cut of is of 15 functions evolved on all mammalian animals for reasons,, one is, it is the best antifriction machanic no science can duplicate.. This the reason 66% of American woman feel or will feel pain, despite all the lubricans. The it "it prevents cancer is a lie, just like vaccines. Finland prohibit this amputation, all native Finland man are intact , and Finland has the lowest cervical cancer globally, for a simple fact their woman are not damaged during love making. Nature, God, whatever is the reason for all existence do not make errors, if there are, such specie do not last long. All Nature given is perfect, man is not. Man is full of anti Nature ideas, a very war like animal, it never stop inventing weapons against the opponents. This creature, in the the tribal or communal mode do not think on its own, it never question and those who do are in minority. This from someone who is a right wing conservative politically but also who say, if humankind is to survive, it must get rid of all governments. Each human should advance to the stage of governing him or herself, without being to what to do by one guy president or a king.

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Tom Karnes's avatar

You are free to take your baby to the park, if your white, your ass is grass, 9000 plank burn it down and pass the Grey Poupon

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Abigail Starke's avatar

You are right sadly. Can you run for office?

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Courageous Lion's avatar

No. Divergent people can't run for office. For one thing, I'm not wanting to be a "leader". I just want to be left alone. If the SHTF, I'll lead as a necessity. As it stands? Why would I want to run for any office? Ron Paul said years ago, and he was right that those who should be in office are unable to because they are already doing things that the "powers that be" would be upset about.

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