It’s time to admit that as great a concept as it may have been, the Constitution failed us. Or, We the People (WTP) failed to hold our elected officials to follow the Constitution, causing us to be where we are now – about to explode like the glutton “Mr. Cresote” in Monty Python’s Meaning of Life. Just one more trillion dollars for Ukraine’s borders…
What government did America have when we fought and Won the Revolutionary War? The Articles of the Confederation (AOC). And the main reasons that it proved difficult to maintain no longer exist: no common currency and no immediate way to connect with all the states so any ratification was a slow process.
Guess who was the biggest critic of the AOC? Alexander “A Bill of Rights is Not Necessary” Hamilton.
With 50 sovereign states not tied to a federal government and united for only a few important national issues (like borders/non-interventionist foreign policy), maybe we could even avoid a civil war!
With threats of another forever war, at what point do We the People say Enough?
Good question Liz. One I’ve been asking since 1983 when they murdered Gordon Kahl. Gordon Kahl was right, when he made his famous stand. Heaven knows there was a man, who fought a righteous fight. Until the wrong arm of the law gunned him down in Arkansas. He would not pay one dime of tribute to the IRS and for his disobedience they planned his fiery death.
Five forty-five p.m. on a North Dakota road in February nineteen eighty-three. that's when the war began where two Federal Marshals died, for the sake of tyranny. They both would underestimate the courage of one man, who only shot in self-defense to save his promised land!
Liz you write and you are wrong on almost every detail.
Ther are 33 states, Oregon was the last one. It is our Confederation and perpetual Union's articles styled The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859. www.orsj.org or contact me ronvrooman38@gmail/com 503 641 8375.
Hi Ron...it's been awhile. You know my answer to this. Constructive fraud on top of constructive fraud on top of more constructive fraud. How do we keep from shooting our way out of this mess? THEY aren't going to go along with any effort we make outside of their plan. They may play along for effect, but really?
Some say they have a lien against us. However I stand here with unalienable rights.
It’s a mindset. When you grasp one you grasp the other and you can no longer claim ignorance, of the law. Law is not the US Code or ORS. It is Constitutional.
Unalienable rights, granted by God the creator. As mentioned in our unanimous Declaration of the thirteen untied States of America. Defined in, the Constitutionally correct Dictionary, Bouvier 1856, to the sovereign men and women with our progeny on the land and soil of our de jure jurisdiction. Natural rights. Put that in one hand. That is named the Laws of nature and Nature’s God. That is Law and Equity in Article III the only Court where a man or woman can find remedy against the State, Constitutionally. When found in Amendment VII our Civilian common law Court of record. Lawful. De jure, on Oregon.
In the other hand place the creations of man such as: the de facto, Article I Courts in admiralty operated in United States Courts non Article III courts. Their Federal Judges are Article III, the Courts are not. See Mookini 303 for evidence of hiding Article III and using UCC, USC, UCMJ, 501 C3, IRS, Sub chapter S, ORS. That is named legal. De facto illegal or illegitimate.
Please see Black’s Law page 416. De facto read it all the way down to de jure.
They are two different jurisdictions. Switch hands same deal. You may participate in either or other. But, one at a time. A man and woman with their children can expatriate jurisdictions, law forms and venues. You cannot be legally or lawfully forced to agree to any law form other than de jure original jurisdiction.
Unalienable rights are found in the de jure where men, women, and their children have body, mind, spirit, flesh, blood, soul. These come with responsibilities found in ARTICLE I Section 1 Lawful. Oregon’s Constitution c1859. Natural rights inherent in people. We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. —
If you think you need a million people to get this job done. We think you’re wrong. It takes 5 of us. We used 6 so we had an alternate when we formed our social compact on Oregon. We are now a jury pool of peers of several hundred. Further growth is counterproductive now. It is too expensive to grow larger at this time. So, take our Oregon experience as an example. Five (5) times 33 the number of the lawful, several states circa 1859-1860. Then take 5 times 17 for the de facto federal states in color of law since March 1861. They are lawfully territories and must lawfully metamorphous into one of the several states.
For the lawful delegations from the several states to the Congress assembled, made up of the ARTICLE I Section 1 delegates from each state to be seated they need to be: Jural Assemblies the provisional government on their state, with one task, a single goal. Return to a Constitutional republican form of government in de jure and to Assemble in a Continental Congress. An Electoral College assembled to pick up the de jure The United States of America’s Constitution, in original jurisdiction and as the creator the Confederation and perpetual Union a total of 33 states. Oregon was last. Or a quorum. However, all are equal within the Confederation and perpetual Union styled The United States of America. They also gain the Proprietorship of the unincorporated United States of Washington District of Columbia a de jure jurisdiction. Defined as the government service facilitator with an Army, not Constitutional, a U.S. Navy with USMC and ships, forts, ports, and lawful needful buildings such as Armories. The United States of Washington District of Columbia an unincorporated service company with enumerated responsibilities and prohibitions owns what is left of a 10 mile square plot of ground named Washington District of Columbia. See the map... An Article II Congress to operate it. A Specified Article III and Article I and all of the several states to comply with governing law. Not color of law. To make the laws for their jurisdiction and venue. With Article II Section 8 and 9 enumerated with specific responsibilities and come forth in law not color of law in deception. I like Article IV Section 4 among others.
What we have is Oregon the state. with a de jure ARTICLE I Section 1 provisional government aka Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly. Signed, sealed, stamped, witnessed, proof of service published at www.orsja.org. Then there are32 states in various and several assemblies, alliances, societies all doing something that does not get the work done.
Example: that written above is for my peace safety and happiness. You must do it yourself, no one can do it for you, all of us cannot do it alone. Each State and Territory Must Assemble. We only need a quorum
The Several States can invite the 17 territories to attend Although Alaska and Hawaii are apart with issues to sort out.
Privileges, United States citizens, titles, acts, statutes, ordinances, mandates, orders are of the de facto jurisdiction that is presently known as a subdivision of the United States with bogus Amendments 13 and 14 and so forth since March 1861. The only reason US citizens exists is for the peace, safety and happiness of the de jure. That is me and you. The de facto has failed. We change the de facto on Oregon for de jure November 2022. We are no longer deceived on Oregon.
If you hire an attorney, an Oregon State Bar Attorney, you self declare that you are incompetent and a ward of the court where your attorney is a member of that court. Read the 12 presumptions in law.(video at www.orsja.org) Then Athens, Tennessee 1946.
If you are an incorporated entity whomever you incorporated with owns you. A 501 C-3 church reverses the authority from God to the De facto state. If people decide to become persons and do interstate commerce then they become de facto in jurisdiction and are governed by titles, acts, statutes, ordinances, mandate, orders and presumptions et al. Until we eliminate de facto completely.
If you are an unincorporated assembly of people ( a church, a farm, a ranch, a tribe, a clan, a club, PMA) you answer to no de facto as in : City of Portland is a subdivision of the County of Multnomah is a subdivision of the State of Oregon a subdivision of the United States Inc. We have the documentation from the GSA. That provides that evidence in the illegal taking of the block on which stands the Mark O. Hatfield Federal Building. That is de facto. In the de jure we have un-incorporated government. Some of us also equate with Private and Public. Trade and Commerce. De facto on Oregon has 114 years under color of law. They failed we are replacing them starting in November 2022 on Oregon.
It is suggested you, we, they, all of us! Read and comprehend The United States of America’s Constitution circa 1859. Oregon’s Constitution circa 1859 or facsimiles. Then move on to our articles of/for the Confederation and perpetual Union. And the unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America. All amendments, treaties and SAL are in need of validation. The SAL of 1858 was written after the Armistice of Grant and Lee.
I, We, You, Us and They need not comply. Make sure your paperwork is correct, your status, standing and jurisdiction are clear. A member of our Grand Jury cannot be under the jurisdiction of the de facto. Excepted be, by direct knowledge of a crime, a wet ink signature from our Court, a Presentment, True Bill or indictment of our Grand Jury or expatriation.
No more plausible deniability. Or prosecutorial preference, you know and cannot un-ring the bell. De facto must return to government that which is rightfully ours. We are ARTICLE I Section 1 the de jure.
People in a society become persons and give their jurisdiction to the de facto that authorized them. Such as the John Birch Society, Society of Jesus or a Jural Society.
Wow. In another words…we’re in quite a mess. Bryan Malenowski had an UNALIEANBLE right to buy sell and trade firearms as a hobby. If “they” didn’t want him to do so, they should have asked him to get a “license” for $200 fed notes. But they just went ahead and murdered him over $200. Sorry Ron, I see no fucking way out of this anymore outside of either getting local militias of men and women willing to stand withs each other or leaderless resistance. THEY don’t give a flying rats ass about anything you just posted. They IGNORE the Constitution and really don’t give a shit about which one they ignore. They would ignore them all.
When you look at the constitution that most people know about, it has certain provisions that simply are not allowed to be screwed with. For instance, in 1934 the asshats that were in charge made a “law” that says unless you pay $200 and register a rifle with a barrel length less than 18” (It was changed later to 16”) you were committing a “crime” by possessing one. The 2nd amendment is shit on with that one and the 8th also. Which says excessive fines are not allowed. Isn’t $250,000 fine for not paying $200 excessive? And it says that cruel and unusual punishment isn’t allowed. Isn’t 10 years in a cage for mere possession of an object “they” don’t like cruel and unusual? I say at my age…fuck them. I promise to make every effort to kill as many of the bastards as I can before they kill me. I’m not going to file five thousand pages of court documents declaring my “status”. Here is my status…I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
So your bank looks around the social media and found that you made a comment against mainstream narratives? Your bank then fires you and tell other banks not to accept you as a customer? WTF? THAT IS TERRORISM!
There could be another way. But it would require the ability to make a valley disappear as if by magic...just as John Galy did in Atlas Shrugged because the big man is about to launch the globe and walk away
A Republic…if we can keep it.
It’s time to admit that as great a concept as it may have been, the Constitution failed us. Or, We the People (WTP) failed to hold our elected officials to follow the Constitution, causing us to be where we are now – about to explode like the glutton “Mr. Cresote” in Monty Python’s Meaning of Life. Just one more trillion dollars for Ukraine’s borders…
What government did America have when we fought and Won the Revolutionary War? The Articles of the Confederation (AOC). And the main reasons that it proved difficult to maintain no longer exist: no common currency and no immediate way to connect with all the states so any ratification was a slow process.
Guess who was the biggest critic of the AOC? Alexander “A Bill of Rights is Not Necessary” Hamilton.
With 50 sovereign states not tied to a federal government and united for only a few important national issues (like borders/non-interventionist foreign policy), maybe we could even avoid a civil war!
With threats of another forever war, at what point do We the People say Enough?
https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/a-modest-proposal-when-the-war-drums?r=76q58
Good question Liz. One I’ve been asking since 1983 when they murdered Gordon Kahl. Gordon Kahl was right, when he made his famous stand. Heaven knows there was a man, who fought a righteous fight. Until the wrong arm of the law gunned him down in Arkansas. He would not pay one dime of tribute to the IRS and for his disobedience they planned his fiery death.
Five forty-five p.m. on a North Dakota road in February nineteen eighty-three. that's when the war began where two Federal Marshals died, for the sake of tyranny. They both would underestimate the courage of one man, who only shot in self-defense to save his promised land!
https://www.courageouslion.us/p/there-is-a-reason-they-dont-listen
100% agree!
Liz you write and you are wrong on almost every detail.
Ther are 33 states, Oregon was the last one. It is our Confederation and perpetual Union's articles styled The United States of America's Constitution circa 1859. www.orsj.org or contact me ronvrooman38@gmail/com 503 641 8375.
Hi Ron...it's been awhile. You know my answer to this. Constructive fraud on top of constructive fraud on top of more constructive fraud. How do we keep from shooting our way out of this mess? THEY aren't going to go along with any effort we make outside of their plan. They may play along for effect, but really?
Some say they have a lien against us. However I stand here with unalienable rights.
It’s a mindset. When you grasp one you grasp the other and you can no longer claim ignorance, of the law. Law is not the US Code or ORS. It is Constitutional.
Unalienable rights, granted by God the creator. As mentioned in our unanimous Declaration of the thirteen untied States of America. Defined in, the Constitutionally correct Dictionary, Bouvier 1856, to the sovereign men and women with our progeny on the land and soil of our de jure jurisdiction. Natural rights. Put that in one hand. That is named the Laws of nature and Nature’s God. That is Law and Equity in Article III the only Court where a man or woman can find remedy against the State, Constitutionally. When found in Amendment VII our Civilian common law Court of record. Lawful. De jure, on Oregon.
In the other hand place the creations of man such as: the de facto, Article I Courts in admiralty operated in United States Courts non Article III courts. Their Federal Judges are Article III, the Courts are not. See Mookini 303 for evidence of hiding Article III and using UCC, USC, UCMJ, 501 C3, IRS, Sub chapter S, ORS. That is named legal. De facto illegal or illegitimate.
Please see Black’s Law page 416. De facto read it all the way down to de jure.
They are two different jurisdictions. Switch hands same deal. You may participate in either or other. But, one at a time. A man and woman with their children can expatriate jurisdictions, law forms and venues. You cannot be legally or lawfully forced to agree to any law form other than de jure original jurisdiction.
Unalienable rights are found in the de jure where men, women, and their children have body, mind, spirit, flesh, blood, soul. These come with responsibilities found in ARTICLE I Section 1 Lawful. Oregon’s Constitution c1859. Natural rights inherent in people. We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. —
If you think you need a million people to get this job done. We think you’re wrong. It takes 5 of us. We used 6 so we had an alternate when we formed our social compact on Oregon. We are now a jury pool of peers of several hundred. Further growth is counterproductive now. It is too expensive to grow larger at this time. So, take our Oregon experience as an example. Five (5) times 33 the number of the lawful, several states circa 1859-1860. Then take 5 times 17 for the de facto federal states in color of law since March 1861. They are lawfully territories and must lawfully metamorphous into one of the several states.
For the lawful delegations from the several states to the Congress assembled, made up of the ARTICLE I Section 1 delegates from each state to be seated they need to be: Jural Assemblies the provisional government on their state, with one task, a single goal. Return to a Constitutional republican form of government in de jure and to Assemble in a Continental Congress. An Electoral College assembled to pick up the de jure The United States of America’s Constitution, in original jurisdiction and as the creator the Confederation and perpetual Union a total of 33 states. Oregon was last. Or a quorum. However, all are equal within the Confederation and perpetual Union styled The United States of America. They also gain the Proprietorship of the unincorporated United States of Washington District of Columbia a de jure jurisdiction. Defined as the government service facilitator with an Army, not Constitutional, a U.S. Navy with USMC and ships, forts, ports, and lawful needful buildings such as Armories. The United States of Washington District of Columbia an unincorporated service company with enumerated responsibilities and prohibitions owns what is left of a 10 mile square plot of ground named Washington District of Columbia. See the map... An Article II Congress to operate it. A Specified Article III and Article I and all of the several states to comply with governing law. Not color of law. To make the laws for their jurisdiction and venue. With Article II Section 8 and 9 enumerated with specific responsibilities and come forth in law not color of law in deception. I like Article IV Section 4 among others.
What we have is Oregon the state. with a de jure ARTICLE I Section 1 provisional government aka Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly. Signed, sealed, stamped, witnessed, proof of service published at www.orsja.org. Then there are32 states in various and several assemblies, alliances, societies all doing something that does not get the work done.
Example: that written above is for my peace safety and happiness. You must do it yourself, no one can do it for you, all of us cannot do it alone. Each State and Territory Must Assemble. We only need a quorum
The Several States can invite the 17 territories to attend Although Alaska and Hawaii are apart with issues to sort out.
Privileges, United States citizens, titles, acts, statutes, ordinances, mandates, orders are of the de facto jurisdiction that is presently known as a subdivision of the United States with bogus Amendments 13 and 14 and so forth since March 1861. The only reason US citizens exists is for the peace, safety and happiness of the de jure. That is me and you. The de facto has failed. We change the de facto on Oregon for de jure November 2022. We are no longer deceived on Oregon.
If you hire an attorney, an Oregon State Bar Attorney, you self declare that you are incompetent and a ward of the court where your attorney is a member of that court. Read the 12 presumptions in law.(video at www.orsja.org) Then Athens, Tennessee 1946.
If you are an incorporated entity whomever you incorporated with owns you. A 501 C-3 church reverses the authority from God to the De facto state. If people decide to become persons and do interstate commerce then they become de facto in jurisdiction and are governed by titles, acts, statutes, ordinances, mandate, orders and presumptions et al. Until we eliminate de facto completely.
If you are an unincorporated assembly of people ( a church, a farm, a ranch, a tribe, a clan, a club, PMA) you answer to no de facto as in : City of Portland is a subdivision of the County of Multnomah is a subdivision of the State of Oregon a subdivision of the United States Inc. We have the documentation from the GSA. That provides that evidence in the illegal taking of the block on which stands the Mark O. Hatfield Federal Building. That is de facto. In the de jure we have un-incorporated government. Some of us also equate with Private and Public. Trade and Commerce. De facto on Oregon has 114 years under color of law. They failed we are replacing them starting in November 2022 on Oregon.
It is suggested you, we, they, all of us! Read and comprehend The United States of America’s Constitution circa 1859. Oregon’s Constitution circa 1859 or facsimiles. Then move on to our articles of/for the Confederation and perpetual Union. And the unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America. All amendments, treaties and SAL are in need of validation. The SAL of 1858 was written after the Armistice of Grant and Lee.
I, We, You, Us and They need not comply. Make sure your paperwork is correct, your status, standing and jurisdiction are clear. A member of our Grand Jury cannot be under the jurisdiction of the de facto. Excepted be, by direct knowledge of a crime, a wet ink signature from our Court, a Presentment, True Bill or indictment of our Grand Jury or expatriation.
No more plausible deniability. Or prosecutorial preference, you know and cannot un-ring the bell. De facto must return to government that which is rightfully ours. We are ARTICLE I Section 1 the de jure.
People in a society become persons and give their jurisdiction to the de facto that authorized them. Such as the John Birch Society, Society of Jesus or a Jural Society.
Assemblies give authority to governments.
Wow. In another words…we’re in quite a mess. Bryan Malenowski had an UNALIEANBLE right to buy sell and trade firearms as a hobby. If “they” didn’t want him to do so, they should have asked him to get a “license” for $200 fed notes. But they just went ahead and murdered him over $200. Sorry Ron, I see no fucking way out of this anymore outside of either getting local militias of men and women willing to stand withs each other or leaderless resistance. THEY don’t give a flying rats ass about anything you just posted. They IGNORE the Constitution and really don’t give a shit about which one they ignore. They would ignore them all.
When you look at the constitution that most people know about, it has certain provisions that simply are not allowed to be screwed with. For instance, in 1934 the asshats that were in charge made a “law” that says unless you pay $200 and register a rifle with a barrel length less than 18” (It was changed later to 16”) you were committing a “crime” by possessing one. The 2nd amendment is shit on with that one and the 8th also. Which says excessive fines are not allowed. Isn’t $250,000 fine for not paying $200 excessive? And it says that cruel and unusual punishment isn’t allowed. Isn’t 10 years in a cage for mere possession of an object “they” don’t like cruel and unusual? I say at my age…fuck them. I promise to make every effort to kill as many of the bastards as I can before they kill me. I’m not going to file five thousand pages of court documents declaring my “status”. Here is my status…I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
It is mindset. Yours is not de jure. So, contact me when you are aware that you must do it!! No one can do it for you and we cannot do it alone.
So your bank looks around the social media and found that you made a comment against mainstream narratives? Your bank then fires you and tell other banks not to accept you as a customer? WTF? THAT IS TERRORISM!
Just beware, when one looks beyond the cover, it may not be all that it seems.
I wish the real republic well.
Love this 🥰🥰🥰
Bravo! So very True
Anna lies, and publishes her lies, and some believe her. She is very knowledgable. An alternative that works is at www.orsja.org.
There could be another way. But it would require the ability to make a valley disappear as if by magic...just as John Galy did in Atlas Shrugged because the big man is about to launch the globe and walk away